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To: Quila
Actually, no, Evolution started by saying, I dont believe in God because it makes me recognize I am accountable to God because of sin, so there has to be another way.

That is religious, too. It is against a creationist religious viewpoint, and is against Christianty in general. Christianity is based on the fact of man's sin, and Christ's death on the cross to pay for that sin. Do away with Adam, you do away with sin entering the world. Do away with sin entering the world, you can do away with the need for Jesus Christ's death on the cross.

100 posted on 02/03/2002 5:57:59 PM PST by RaceBannon
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To: RaceBannon
No, Race, evolutionary theory did NOT begin by denying God, for what ever reason one might deny God. Darwin was, himself, a very devout man.

Evolutionary theory began when men began noticing that the fossil record included animals and plants which do not exist today, and did not include animals and plants which do exist today. That is what biologist mean when they say evolution is a fact, a fact which requires explaination. Darwin was led to his theory explaining this biological change by noticing all the different, but clearly related species which existed in certain isolated enviornments. Might these similar species once have been one species, introduced into this isolated environment at some point in the past, and changing to take advantage of all of the empty ecological niches available? How would these changes have taken place? He couldn't answer that, and he admitted that he couldn't, but he proposed that once the changes began, the mechanism he called natural selection would cause some to survive, and some to die out.

Why are you so afraid to consider that man may have evolved from non-man? Do you truly need a physical Adam, living at some specific time in the past, not born of man or woman (or even of male and female anthopoid) to establish the existance of evil, and the need for salvation? All right, then, consider the species most like us, not only genetically, but in behavior as well: the chimpanzee. Individual chimps can certainly commit acts of agression and selfishness, but can they sin? Can they be evil? I do not know; I do not think so, for I never met an evil chimp. But I have met evil men. Somewhere in that small genetic difference between chimps and men, that ability to distinguish right from wrong, and to make the choice between them came into existance. When? I don't know that either. Sometimes I think it is still happening, and not in all peoples at the same rate.
141 posted on 02/03/2002 9:38:29 PM PST by VietVet
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To: RaceBannon
Actually, no, Evolution started by saying, I dont believe in God because it makes me recognize I am accountable to God because of sin, so there has to be another way.

That's a lot of hubris to think everything is targeted against your religion. Did you ever think they weren't even thinking of religion? Or maybe the opposite, that they could have been a bit scared because what they saw contradicted everything they believed. Remember, most people in that time and place were religious.

150 posted on 02/03/2002 11:37:52 PM PST by Quila
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To: RaceBannon
Actually, no, Evolution started by saying, I dont believe in God because it makes me recognize I am accountable to God because of sin, so there has to be another way.

Um. No, that's incredibly ignorant of you to say. The same old argument. Anybody who doesn't want to believe in God, will find any excuse not to. They can say it's because of evolution but that's just a crap reason.

That is religious, too. It is against a creationist religious viewpoint, and is against Christianty in general. Christianity is based on the fact of man's sin, and Christ's death on the cross to pay for that sin. Do away with Adam, you do away with sin entering the world. Do away with sin entering the world, you can do away with the need for Jesus Christ's death on the cross.

It is not against Christianity. Creationism does not = Christianity. Anything that does not, in your opinion, reek of "God did it" (and evolution in my opinion, does) is automatically the Anti-Christ.

205 posted on 02/04/2002 9:03:13 AM PST by JediGirl
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