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To: MadameAxe
Conservatism was and should be defined by the ideas of our Founders. They got most of their ideas right. Based on your assumption, they were totalitarian. No, they knew certain sexual behavior was a crime. We had thousands of fewer laws, but sexual behavior that caused destruction was banned for most of the history of this nation.

In fact, I'm sure the next agenda on the liberaltarian list will be to attempt to 1) legalize prostitution nationwide and 2) lower the age of consent laws. That's coming if liberaltarianism and liberalism are defeated.

The law deters crime. The stronger the law, the more the deterrent. That's why drug use has dropped from 26 millon to 14 million in the past 20 years. Tougher drug laws is one of the reasons for the drug in the crime rate (since 70% of all criminals in prison were high on drugs when they committed their crimes).

Legalizing marijuana and relaxing the drug laws in the 1960s and 1970s resulted in more users, more innocent people being harmed and more crime. The excesses of the WOD were a result of the out-of-control drug use and weak laws given to us by the free-love, free-drug hippie generation.

27 posted on 02/02/2002 8:20:53 AM PST by Ol' Sparky
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To: Ol' Sparky
That's why drug use has dropped from 26 millon to 14 million in the past 20 years. Tougher drug laws is one of the reasons for the drug in the crime rate (since 70% of all criminals in prison were high on drugs when they committed their crimes).

Please provide a source for your statistics.

30 posted on 02/02/2002 8:28:07 AM PST by MadameAxe
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To: Ol' Sparky
No, they knew certain sexual behavior was a crime.

How did they "know" this?

45 posted on 02/02/2002 9:07:33 AM PST by CubicleGuy
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To: Ol' Sparky
Your enthusiasm for repression seems to exceed your semantic skills. To quote you:

"[Legalizing prostitution and lowering the age of consent are] coming if liberaltarianism [sic] and liberalism are defeated."

From your earlier posts, I take it would would prefer the defeat of libertarianism and liberalism...but why would that be if, according to you, they are what are keeping prostitution from being legalizeed and the age of consent lowered? You don't favor legal prostitution and a lowered age of consent, do you?

Also, I'm not sure what the statistics you cite mean. If 70% of all criminals in prison were high on drugs when they committed their crimes, maybe the police should favor drug use because high criminals act stupidly and get caught...and if people high on drugs commit 26-29% of all murders, that means sober people commit 71-74% of all murders. I'm not sure whom I should fear more. :-)

77 posted on 02/02/2002 10:44:12 AM PST by jejones
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