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Proponents of the natural order as a basis for homosexuality should not pick-and-choose the situations that best fit their agendas. They should be consistent and not compare us to animals. We are not animals. We are made in God's image.
1 posted on 02/02/2002 6:32:51 AM PST by Khepera
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To: *BRAAD; JMJ333; Tourist Guy; EODGUY; proud2bRC; abandon; Khepera; Dakmar; RichInOC; RebelDawg...
Going softly into the future.
2 posted on 02/02/2002 6:36:53 AM PST by Khepera
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To: Khepera
Bump.
3 posted on 02/02/2002 6:39:07 AM PST by Exigence
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To: Khepera; Registered
NEVER FORGET

They are after our children. They lie about it, but they lie about so much that this is no surprise.


Eaker

4 posted on 02/02/2002 6:47:31 AM PST by Eaker
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To: Khepera
We should treat homosexuals as the Bible says to. Homosexuals are "vile" and committing acts that are "shameful" and an "abomination." In fact, homosexual behavior is a crime in the Bible.

It's time Christians started reading the Bible rather than listening to people that want to diminish serious perverted behavior. Those promoting and involved in perverse behavior don't deserve to be treated with dignity. They need to be told that their behavior is replusive and will lead to destruction.

Unrepentant homosexuals shouldn't be treated any differently than a drug addict that has no desire to give up drugs.

11 posted on 02/02/2002 7:35:45 AM PST by Ol' Sparky
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To: Khepera
I've never seen this suggested before. Couldn't it be possible that homosexuality is God's form of population control? It is present in most animals I've heard of from dogs, to monkeys, to killer whales. According to the tenth edition of Merriam-Webster's Collegiate Dictionary, "homosexual" as an adjective was first used in 1892 and as a noun in 1902. We don't know the actual meanings of many of the words in the earliest bible texts, after all there are how many different english translations? I believe that consentual love - mental as well as physical - between two adults is well within the spirit of Jesus Christ. In fact, it is much of what He stood for. Did He ever once discriminate? If the early church's translations had not condemned homosexuality, perhaps it would have bred itself out. Maybe it is no more than God's population control after all.
42 posted on 02/02/2002 8:57:37 AM PST by nightstarpm
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To: Khepera
We are not animals. We are made in God's image.

If there is nothing animalistic about you, then I assume that you do not eat, or sleep, urinate, or deficate or even die one day. For the rest of us who still have to deal with those realities we share with the world of animals, it is a different story.

The bigger question is, is only man made in the image of God, or is the universe made in the image of God? The really big question for puritanical Christian sects is this: Does God have genitals?

Not all Christian sects are puritanical, and not all conservatives are puritanical, and not all conservatives are Christian.

It's time for Christianity to grow up about sex and stop trying to be little perfect children of God without genitalia.

58 posted on 02/02/2002 9:30:16 AM PST by stripes1776
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"The Christian church has not stood idle. When it has spoken out against this political immorality, the cry of "separation of church and state" is shouted at the "religious bigots." But when the homosexual community uses political power to control the church, no such cry of bigotry is heard. After all, it isn't politically correct to side with Christians."


Here's what two leaders of the homosexual community wrote in The Overhauling of Straight America:

"...While public opinion is one primary source of mainstream values, religious authority is the other. When conservative churches condemn gays, there are only two things we can do to confound the homophobia of true believers. First, we can use talk to muddy the moral waters. This means publicizing support for gays by more moderate churches, raising theological objections of our own about conservative interpretations of biblical teachings, and exposing hatred and inconsistency. Second, we can undermine the moral authority of homophobic churches by portraying them as antiquated backwaters, badly out of step with the times and with the latest findings of psychology. Against the mighty pull of institutional Religion one must set the mightier draw of Science and Public Opinion (the shield and word of that accursed “secular humanism”). Such an unholy alliance has worked well against churches before, on such topics as divorce and abortion. With enough open talk about the prevalence and acceptability of homosexuality, that alliance can work again here..."

61 posted on 02/02/2002 9:43:12 AM PST by EdReform
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Ping
68 posted on 02/02/2002 10:20:42 AM PST by EdReform
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To: Khepera
BTTT! Excellent post and is as clear as crystal. How the left and leftist-infiltrated "churches" can read anthing other than God's Word on this issue is simply amazing and sad...God forgive them for they KNOW what they do!
73 posted on 02/02/2002 10:33:55 AM PST by T.R. Bigstick
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To: Khepera
Even churches would be required to hire a quota of homosexuals with "sensitivity" training courses to be "strongly urged" in various work places.

This position is completely untenable. The state should not be involved in the religious practices of a church.
However, the Church should not use the state to prohibit private activity, in which, consenting adults engage and undue harm is not caused to another individual.

Homosexuality is not natural.

Neither is God, but I do not hear many people arguing against his existence, nor his goodness, on the basis that God is not natural. The agrument that just ignorant; many things are "unnatural," but that does not make them worng.

93 posted on 02/02/2002 2:37:21 PM PST by ThJ1800
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To: Khepera
. In fact, if such couplings occurred in the animal world as a predominant practice, species would quickly become extinct.

This is the saving grace of this. hopefully with no procreation they will also become extinct. But then I also believe that maried couples should be licencsed to have chldren

114 posted on 02/03/2002 12:29:01 AM PST by .45MAN
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