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To: agrace; Nix 2; veronica; Thinkin' Gal; Jeremiah Jr; Prodigal Daughter; Yehuda; TrueBeliever9...
Nix 2 wrote in #6:  >The next scheduled speaker was the head of Baptist Minitries. He gave a speech excoriating the Jews at a service for dead children. I have never quite understood that vitriol at that particular time, but it sharpened my awareness of things going on around me that I might otherwise not have noticed, isolated as I am. I don't condemn anyone else's religion except, perhaps for Islam, but I must adnit, Evangelical Baptisits have given me great pause.

agrace wrote in #10: >I'd like to think it is rather that we love the Jewish people because God loves them, that we respect His covenant with them, and remember that we are grafted into their tree.

Right.  They are grafted in and how the Lord regathers and restores them is a mystery that is unfolding and is wondrous to see.  The Baptist preacher mentioned in post #6 is boasting against the branches which he was expressly warned in Romans 11 not to do, lest he be cut-off.  That sound of a tree falling in the forest is the lopped off, dead, unfruitful branches of those who say they abide but do not.  That Baptist is in major error and teaching it just like Martin Luther did.

400 years is a biblical type of bondage: in Egypt, in departing from the Law which Josiah restored when it was found in the wall, and so on.  It is 400 years to the day that the Ottomans had control:

...October 31, 1517 to October 31, 1917 = 400 years.  The British Lord, General Edmund Allenby, took Beersheba and began his drive toward Jerusalem.  Israel a nation in 1948 was a total of 430 years which was the total years in Egypt.  (The U.N. reared its ugly head about that time, a bigger brother of the 1917 League of Nations.)

At the same time, on the same day...

...October 31, 1517 Martin Luther nailed his 95 Theses to the door at Wittenberg (considered to be the start of the Reformation) and derailed the church into continued and furthered apostacy (bondage to inherited lies), and deceived many by teaching falsely about the Jews, the Law, Sabbath worship, adding "alone" to the scripture following "faith," and excluding James from the Bible.

..."From the Catholic (Roman) teaching of justification by works of penance, etc., Luther went to the opposite extreme of justification without works. This idea caused him to deny that the Epistle of James was inspired, because James said, 'Faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone.' This attitude made Luther spurn the true Christian Sabbath."  (History of the Sabbath by Andrews.  See third edition, 1887) ...Why the Protestant Reformation Failed!
But the church didn't recover itself in 1917.  70 X 7 or 490 is another frequent biblical picture.  1517 + 490 will be 2007, an interesting number for those who hold things loosely...and, No, that is not a prediction. Other events of 1917: WW1 ended, League of Nations, Fatima appeared to three children in Portugal.

Hitler planned Krystallnacht (the beginning of the round-up and extermination of the Jews) on Nov. 9/10, 1938 in honor of Martin Luther's birthday for Luther's blueprint for getting rid of the Jews, a book entitled, "On the Jews and their lies."  We know that man (Luther) is false by his fruit and notice the stinking fruit in the deceived Baptist above as well.

A major scripture for this day for Christians should be:

Jer 16:19 O LORD, my strength, and my fortress, and my refuge in the day of affliction, the Gentiles shall come unto thee from the ends of the earth, and shall say, Surely our fathers have inherited lies, vanity, and things wherein there is no profit.
If we truly love Truth and He who IS Truth, then when we are confronted with Truth that was hid from us before, we should embrace Truth and cast away that which is false of tradition and doctrines of men.  To not do so is Idolatry.

Ec 12:13 Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man.

1Ch 28:9 And thou, Solomon my son, know thou the God of thy father, and serve him with a perfect heart and with a willing mind: for the LORD searcheth all hearts, and understandeth all the imaginations of the thoughts: if* thou seek him, he will be found of thee; but if** thou forsake him, he will cast thee off for ever.

Obedience and faithfulness are written in the Torah from beginning to end and continue a daily lifetime walk of continuing in the Word.  Many have been deceived into thinking they don't have to continue because they have already arrived.  They do err.

*if thou seek. 2Ch 15:2; Pr 2:1-6; Isa 45:19; 55:6-7; Jer 29:13; Mt 7:7-8; Jas 4:8-11

**if thou forsake. De 31:16-17; 1Ki 9:6-9; Ezr 8:22; Isa 1:28; Heb 10:38-39

Anti-Judiasm and the Council of Nicea
Why the Protestant Reformation Failed!
Anti-Semitism of the "Church Fathers"
Yashanet: Not Subject to the Law of God?
LCMS (Lutheran Church Missouri Synod) statement on Martin Luther's error
Martin Luther and John Calvin Offer Some Advice on The Jews
Martin Luther's dirty little book: On the Jews and their lies
Crash Course in Jewish History Part 50 - The Reformation and the Jews - Luther
Ottoman Rule 400 years
Martin Luther: the author of "The Jews and Their Lies"
Gates of Jewish Heritage: Germany in the 16th Century

37 posted on 02/02/2002 6:29:10 PM PST by 2sheep
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To: 2sheep
Thank you, 2sheep. This is very eloquent and you have my respect for having the heart to say what's true. No one, especially me, is always right all the time, but I do know wrong when I see it and righteousness when it appears. This was a very courageous post on your part when you could have left it alone.

PAX

40 posted on 02/02/2002 6:45:19 PM PST by Nix 2
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