Gone With the War? : Ideas whose time has passed.

The National Review ^ | February 1, 2002 8:20 a.m | Victor Davis Hanson

[wretchard]

This is a phenomenally good article, whose basic tenet is that right and wrong do exist: their demise in the liberal media notwithstanding. It so happens that Western civilization, infused with Christian values, is the repository of everything we have learned about good and evil these last two thousand years.

It is now fighting to survive, threatened, not so much from without, but by the challenge from within.

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

Found this on Andrew sullivan's website.

Anyone familiar with this writer.
I like what he is saying!

I am pinging some of nightowls I see posting tonight!

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

Glad you like the article. I thought it articulated very well some of my disjoint thoughts!

[NoControllingLegalAuthority]

WOW!

This takes the hide off the traitorous liars among us. I love it! Oh, how the passion of truth sweetens the air.

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

Nicely said!

Link to Amazon for his book is here:

Carnage and Culture: Landmark Battles in the Rise of Western Power.

[Aeronaut]

Excellent article. Thanks for posting it.

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

Thanks for the excellent comments.

I am not familiar with Mr. Hanson, but I like what he is saying here!

[68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub]

[nopardons]

It's a great article !

[NoControllingLegalAuthority]

Excellent bio on Victor Davis Hanson at Fresno State site HERE

[wretchard]

The decisive battlefield of the war isn't in Afghanistan or Iraq. It is the United States itself. America has the physical capability to defeat its enemies, but it has lacked, and still lacks, the rationale and determination to go forward.

A large number of Americans believe the very lies that this article attacks. Albert Gore received more votes than George Bush, or at least as many, because these lies have enjoyed such currency. Victory begins at home. If falsehood prevails in America, then this will be the Vietnam of our generation, and our hands around the dagger of betrayal in our soldier's backs.

[NoControllingLegalAuthority]

The bio says he will be a visiting professor of military history at the U.S. Naval Academy 2002-2003.

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

Thanks for the bio info!

[backhoe]

Yhe whole article is worthy, but let me bold this:

The United Nations did nothing after September 11 to prevent future attacks. NATO has proved a charade. The Red Cross worries about the mittens, hoods, and nutritional content of breakfast cereal for killers in Guantanamo — but says little about real torture and murder outside the gates, in Havana itself. They all talk tough to educated and decent American officers about triviality involving a few hundred — but are not so brave or effective about matters of life and death for starving millions in Africa, when confronted by 15-year old psychopaths with Kalishnikovs. Had any of these international relief and rights organizations, or our supposed allies in Europe, possessed the moral fiber of the U.S. Army, then they would have exited Cuba and sent their entire staff to the Congo, where millions have been butchered in silence in the last few years — more dead than the entire population of the West Bank, and a sequel to the prior holocaust in Rwanda. We know that our enemies are strong and evil, but it is disappointing to keep learning each day that our allies, though they sometimes mean well, remain continually weak.

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

Good morning (I think ) !

Time for me to get some shuteye!

Thanks for your work on the nifty Red, White and Blue search banners.

[junta]

I find it hard to believe this was in NR. NR has slipped badly these last few years becoming no more than an echo chamber for a few bought and paid for political lobbies. Chronicles is a far superior product overall, but if NR takes articles like these and starts to flesh them out with in depth analysis from astute thinkers it can be brought back to life.

[pariah]

It is now fighting to survive, threatened, not so much from without, but by the challenge from within.

And isn't it ironic that the enemies of Western culture use its central virtues, political tolerance and force of Reason, to heap scorn upon it (and upon us)? They call us intolerant and bigoted when there is scarcely a culture on Earth that would tolerate their obnoxious carping. These days I am continually reminded of what my social studies teacher taught way back in the 8th grade (circa 1962): that domestic Communists use our cherished freedoms only to tear them down and replace them with a totalitarian state.

[backhoe]

Thanks for your work on the nifty Red, White and Blue search banners

Thanks- truth be told, I used "view partial source" to lift seamole's html, and found a bigger font by either newgeezer or geezerette... imitation is the sincerest form of flattery--

[Red Jones]

I liked this article, and I think I agree with you that NR is not as high quality as it was more than a decade ago and Chronicles is a more powerful conservative journal now. But I still subscribe to NR.