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Why Is Libertarianism Wrong?
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Posted on 02/01/2002 10:21:47 AM PST by Exnihilo

Why is libertarianism wrong?

Why is libertarianism wrong?

The origins, background, values, effects, and defects of libertarianism. Some sections are abstract, but at the end some irreducible value conflicts are clearly stated.


origins

Libertarianism is part of the Anglo-American liberal tradition in political philosophy. It is a development of classic liberalism, and not a separate category from it. It is specifically linked to the United States. Many libertarian texts are written by people, who know only North American political culture and society. They claim universal application for libertarianism, but it remains culture-bound. For instance, some libertarians argue by quoting the US Constitution, without apparently realising, that it is not in force outside the USA. Most online material on libertarianism contrasts it to liberalism, but this contrast is also specific the USA - where the word 'liberal' is used to mean 'left-of-centre'. Here, the word 'liberal' is used in the European sense: libertarians are a sub-category of liberals. As political philosophy, liberalism includes John Locke, John Stuart Mill, Karl Popper, Friedrich Hayek, Isaiah Berlin, and John Rawls. As a political movement, it is represented by the continental-European liberal parties in the Liberal International.

At this point, you might expect a definition of libertarianism. However, most definitions of libertarianism are written by libertarians themselves, and they are extremely propagandistic. "Libertarianism is freedom!' is a slogan, not a definition. Most other definitions of libertarianism borrow from those self-definitions, so I have avoided them. Instead, the values, claims, and effects listed below describe the reality of libertarianism.

values

The values of libertarianism can not be rationally grounded. It is a system of belief, a 'worldview'. If you are a libertarian, then there is no point in reading any further. There is no attempt here to convert you: your belief is simply rejected. The rejection is comprehensive, meaning that all the starting points of libertarian argument (premises) are also rejected. There is no shared ground from which to conduct an argument.

The libertarian belief system includes the values listed in this section, which are affirmed by most libertarians. Certainly, no libertarian rejects them all...

the claims and self-image of libertarianism

Libertarians tend to speak in slogans - "we want freedom", "we are against bureaucracy" - and not in political programmes. Even when they give a direct definition of libertarianism, it is not necessarily true.

The differences between libertarian image and libertarian reality are summarised in this table.

libertarian image libertarian reality
Image: non-coercion, no initiation of force Reality: libertarians legitimise economic injustice, by refusing to define it as coercion or initiated force
Image: moral autonomy of the individual Reality: libertarians demand that the individual accept the outcome of market forces
Image: political freedom Reality: some form of libertarian government, imposing libertarian policies on non-libertarians
Image: libertarians condemn existing states as oppressive Reality: libertarians use the political process in existing states to implement their policies
Image: benefits of libertarianism Reality: libertarians claim the right to decide for others, what constitutes a 'benefit'


political structures in a libertarian society

Values do not enforce their own existence in the social world. The values of libertarianism would have to be enforced, like those of any other political ideology. These political structures would be found in most libertarian societies.

effects

The effects of a libertarian world flow from the values it enforces.

what is libertarianism?

With the values and effects listed above, the general characteristics of libertarianism can be summarised.

Firstly, libertarianism is a legitimation of the existing order, at least in the United States. All political regimes have a legitimising ideology, which gives an ethical justification for the exercise of political power. The European absolute monarchies, for instance, appealed to the doctrine of legitimate descent. The King was the son of a previous King, and therefore (so the story went), entitled to be king. In turn, a comprehensive opposition to a regime will have a comprehensive justification for abolishing it. Libertarianism is not a 'revolutionary ideology' in that sense, seeking to overthrow fundamental values of the society around it. In fact, most US libertarians have a traditionalist attitude to American core values. Libertarianism legitimises primarily the free-market, and the resulting social inequalities.

Specifically libertarianism is a legitimation for the rich - the second defining characteristic. If Bill Gates wants to defend his great personal wealth (while others are starving) then libertarianism is a comprehensive option. His critics will accuse him of greed. They will say he does not need the money and that others desperately need it. They will say his wealth is an injustice, and insist that the government redistribute it. Liberalism (classic liberal philosophy) offers a defence for all these criticisms, but libertarianism is sharper in its rejection. That is not to say that Bill Gates 'pays all the libertarians'. (He would pay the Republican Party instead, which is much better organised, and capable of winning elections). Libertarianism is not necessarily invented or financed, by those who benefit from the ideology. In the USA and certainly in Europe, self-declared libertarians are a minority within market-liberal and neoliberal politics - also legitimising ideologies. To put it crudely, Bill Gates and his companies do not need the libertarians - although they are among his few consistent defenders. (Libertarians formed a 'Committee for the Moral Defense of Microsoft' during the legal actions against the firm).

Thirdly, libertarians are conservatives. Many are openly conservative, but others are evasive about the issue. But in the case of openly conservative libertarians, the intense commitment to conservatism forms the apparent core of their beliefs. I suggest this applies to most libertarians: they are not really interested in the free market or the non-coercion principle or limited government, but in their effects. Perhaps what libertarians really want is to prevent innovation, to reverse social change, or in some way to return to the past. Certainly conservative ideals are easy to find among libertarians. Charles Murray, for instance, writes in What it means to be a Libertarian (p. 138):

The triumph of an earlier America was that it has set all the right trends in motion, at a time when the world was first coming out of millennia of poverty into an era of plenty. The tragedy of contemporary America is that it abandonned that course. Libertarians want to return to it.

Now, Murray is an easy target: he is not only an open conservative, but also a racist. (As co-author of The Bell Curve he is probably the most influential western academic theorist of racial inferiority). But most US libertarians share his nostalgia for the early years of the United States, although it was a slave-owning society. Libertarianism, however, is also structurally conservative in its rejection of revolutionary force (or any innovative force). Without destruction there can be no long-term social change: a world entirely without coercion and force would be a static world.

the real value conflicts with libertarians

The descriptions of libertarianism above are abstract, and criticise its internal inconsistency. Many libertarian texts are insubstantial - just simple propaganda tricks, and misleading appeals to emotion. But there are irreducible differences in fundamental values, between libertarians and their opponents. Because they are irreducible, no common ground of shared values exists: discussion is fruitless. The non-libertarian alternative values include these...

the alternative: what should the state do?

The fundamental task of the state, in a world of liberal market-democratic nation states, is to innovate. To innovate in contravention of national tradition, to innovate when necessary in defiance of the 'will of the people', and to innovate in defiance of market forces and market logic. Libertarians reject any such draconian role for the state - but then libertarians are not the carriers of absolute truth.

These proposed 'tasks of the state' are a replacement for the standard version, used in theoretical works on public administration:

  1. to restrict tradition and heritage, to limit transgenerational culture and transgenerational community - especially if they inhibit innovation
  2. to restrict 'national values', that is the imposition of an ethnic or nation-specific morality
  3. to permit the individual to secede from the nation state, the primary transgenerational community
  4. to limit market forces, and their effects
  5. to permit the individual to secede from the free market
  6. to restrict an emergent civil society, that is, control of society by a network of elite 'actors' (businesses and NGO's)
  7. to prevent a 'knowledge society' - a society where a single worldview (with an absolute claim to truth) is uncontested .
To avoid confusion, note that they are not all directed against libertarianism: but if libertarians shaped the world, the state would do none of these things.


relevant links

Index page: liberalism

Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy: Liberalism - the mainstream definitions of liberalism.

Liberal Manifesto of Oxford (1947), European political liberalism. Some elements, such as "Loyal adherence to a world organisation of all nations..." would now be rejected by the same parties.

Libertäre Ideologie - a series of articles on the libertarian ideology at the online magazine Telepolis. Even if you can not read German, it is useful as a source of links, to libertarian and related sites.

European Libertarians. The Statue of Liberty on their homepage also symbolises Atlanticism: there is no recent libertarian tradition in Europe, outside the UK. More typical of European ultra-liberal politics is the New Right economic liberalism which was at the start of the Thatcher government in Britain. See for example the Institute for Economic Studies Europe, or in central Europe the Czech Liberální Institut.

Libertarian NL, a Dutch libertarian homepage (Aschwin de Wolf). But look at the political issues, the political thinkers, and the links: the libertarian world consists primarily of the United States. In December 2000 the featured theme was an open letter to Alan Greenspan, the chairman of the US central bank (Federal Reserve Board). Yet this is a Dutch website, made by people who live in Europe. Their currency policy is made by European central bank chairman Wim Duisenberg, the former Netherlands central bank president. But they chose to ignore the society around them, and live as wannabe US citizens. Again, a recurrent pattern among European libertarians.

Libertarisme: De renaissance van het klassiek liberalisme by Aschwin de Wolf. This introduction to libertarianism, written for the members of the Netherlands liberal party VVD, illustrates the missionary attitude of libertarians in Europe. European liberalism has become corrupted, they claim, and must reform itself on the model of US libertarianism.

Libertarisme FAQ: explicit about the conservative effects of libertarianism: "Je zou echter wel kunnen stellen dat het libertarisme conservatief is in die zin dat zij mensen in hun waarde laat en geen progressieve experimenten door de overheid toelaat. Het libertarisme is dus heel goed verenigbaar met het koesteren van tradities of andere overgeleverde manieren van leven."

democratic expansionism: liberal market democracy itself depends on coercion, a US military invasion for example

The advantage of capitalist trucks, David Friedman

The Cathedral and the Bazaar: libertarian ideologists are switching their attention from the Internet to Open Source. This text restates a theme from classic liberal philosophy: the contrast between emergent and ideal order (market and Church).

The non-statist FAQ seems to have gone offline (December 2000).

Critiques Of Libertarianism, the best-known anti-libertarian site, but almost exclusively US-American in content.

Elfnet: O/S for a Global Brain?: a good example of the combination of New Age, computer science, and globalism in global-brain connectionism. Opens, as you might expect, with a quote from Kevin Kelly.

Multi-Agent Systems / Hypereconomy: organicist free-market ideas from Alexander Chislenko, "...a contract economy looks much like a forest ecology..."
Networking in the Mind Age: Chislenko on a network global-brain. "The infomorph society will be built on new organizational principles and will represent a blend of a superliquid economy, cyberspace anarchy and advanced consciousness". I hope it works better than his website, which crashed my browser.

Gigantism in Soviet Space: the Soviet Union's state-organised mega-projects are a horror for all liberals. They contravene almost every libertarian precept.

The Right to Discriminate, from the libertarian "Constitution of Oceania". Few libertarians are so explicit about this, but logically it fits. The Right to Own a Business also provides that "Mandatory disability benefits for transvestites, pedophiles, pyromaniacs, kleptomaniacs, drug addicts, and compulsive gamblers are obviously forbidden."

Virtual Canton Constitution, from the libertarian think-tank Free Nation Foundation. Although they claim to be anti-statists, libertarians write many and detailed Constitutions. This one re-appears in the generally libertarian Amsterdam 2.0 urban design project.

Serbia and Bosnia: A Foreign Policy Formulation : libertarianism solves the Bosnia problem. "I am a newcomer to foreign policy and cannot claim to understand all that matters". From the Free Nation site, which advocates a (logically inconsistent) libertarian state.

Libertarian immigration: Entirely free, but, but...."Fortunately, a truly free society would be protected by the fact that all property would be private. Only an immigrant who had permission to occupy the property of another could even enter the country. Even roads and sidewalks would be privately owned and would probably require some type of fee for entry."

Libertarian Foreign Policy, Libertarian Party of Canada. An example of the isolationism which at present characterises North American libertarianism, despite its inherent universalist character.

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To: Exnihilo
"hahaha..get real.."

As a knuckle-dragger to a thumb-sucker, let me say this:

I checked your posts on other threads, and you are just what I supposed, a disruptor.

Didn't see a single substantive item; just smears of Libertarians.

I'll say this for you, you smoked yourself out! LOL!

241 posted on 02/01/2002 12:21:52 PM PST by headsonpikes
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To: Xenalyte
got any kin in Texas?

Closest to that is Kansas, and they moved there just a few years ago. I'm probably not your long lost fourth cousin three times removed, or whatever.

"If you throw your beer cans out the window of your pick-up truck, and your wife shoots them ... you might be a redneck." -Jeff Foxworthy

AB

242 posted on 02/01/2002 12:22:55 PM PST by ArrogantBustard
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To: Exnihilo
I posted this, never imagining that there was an imaginary rule that anything one posts must be defended in full.

C'mon.... at least be honest with yourself.

You posted this, never imagining that there was an imaginary rule that you were obligated to read anything other than the title.

And when you realized your mistake, you started the current line of song and dance.

243 posted on 02/01/2002 12:23:15 PM PST by OWK
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To: Aquinasfan
The central problem with libertarianism is that God doesn't give anyone the "right" to do anything intrinsically evil.

No, but He sure has provided the opportunity.

I believe that's known as "freedom", something that was granted to Adam and Eve in the Garden, if you'll recall. God provided them the opportunity in the form of access to the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil. Not only that, He actually permitted temptation to be provided in the form of a certain being who was cast out of Heaven. Talk about your Grand Conspiracy Theories: God actually "permitted" the fall of Adam. But then again, maybe the problem was simply that God is so weak that He is incapable of keeping fallen angels from invading certain locations, and incapable of creating beings that are not subject to temptation.

Freedom has a cost. That cost was the reason why a Redeemer was sent to Earth. God apparently feels that the principle of freedom was worth the price of sacrificing a Redeemer.

244 posted on 02/01/2002 12:25:13 PM PST by CubicleGuy
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To: Exnihilo
I've been sitting here laughing for the past thirty minutes watching you guys get your panties in a bunch.

Joe Isuzu telecaption translation:

"I've been crapping my pants trying to distance myself from this article I was too lazy to read".

245 posted on 02/01/2002 12:27:36 PM PST by OWK
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To: MadameAxe; Noumenon
I must really take exception to this sweeping generalization. I am honored when I am called a Jesus Freak by my atheist relatives, yet politically and fiscally, I am a libertarian.

The only difference I have with the Libertarian Party platform is in the area of Abortion. One of government's legitimate powers is protection of its citizens lives, and a preborn person is still a person.

One of the most passionate advocates on this threads in defending Libertarianism is a hard core Christian , and coincidentally, a hard core atheist and libertarian posting on this thread is also a hard core "Right to Life" advocate (from what I've seen on this forum before).

Please select a narrower brush before you start painting.

246 posted on 02/01/2002 12:29:12 PM PST by L,TOWM
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To: CubicleGuy
Beautifully put. My cube got brighter reading that, CG.
247 posted on 02/01/2002 12:32:03 PM PST by L,TOWM
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To: Exnihilo; yall
Your paranoia for libertarians finally shows thru.

This silly article was first posted, here:

Why is libertarianism wrong? {Libertarians}
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Address:http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a397a291e4f3b.htm
Changed:5:29 PM on Thursday, July 27, 2000

248 posted on 02/01/2002 12:33:07 PM PST by tpaine
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To: NittanyLion
Are there any libertarians in Congress?
249 posted on 02/01/2002 12:35:42 PM PST by Ben Ficklin
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To: L,TOWM
Knowing both of the posters to whom you addressed your comments, I would state with confidence that the characterization "god-shouting-fanatic", is not one which they would apply to you, or to any rational theistic human being.
250 posted on 02/01/2002 12:36:06 PM PST by OWK
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To: Ben Ficklin
Are there any libertarians in Congress?

Ron Paul is as close as they come, I suppose. I'm registered Republican, myself. But I wouldn't say too many Republicans legislate like little-l libertarians.

251 posted on 02/01/2002 12:38:48 PM PST by NittanyLion
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To: Ben Ficklin
Are there any libertarians in Congress?

Sadly, the overwhelming majority of congress is socialist, varying only in the degree to which they embrace redistributionist and authoritarian policy.

The most notable exception being Congressman Ron Paul (who curiously enough was a libertarian candidate for president of the United States)

252 posted on 02/01/2002 12:39:03 PM PST by OWK
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To: OWK
The libertarians need to get someone in Congress. What are the prospects?
254 posted on 02/01/2002 12:41:17 PM PST by Ben Ficklin
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To: Ben Ficklin

Well, there's Ron Paul..

Oh, whoops.. He's a Republican.

255 posted on 02/01/2002 12:43:38 PM PST by Jhoffa_
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To: Ben Ficklin
The libertarians need to get someone in Congress. What are the prospects?

Not very good I'm afraid.

The majority of Americans have decided that they value socialist redistribution programs more than liberty.

So they keep electing republicans and democrats.

256 posted on 02/01/2002 12:44:19 PM PST by OWK
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To: Ben Ficklin
The libertarians need to get someone in Congress. What are the prospects?

As a practical matter, not too many Americans are interested in voting for someone who preaches restraint. They'd sooner feed at the government trough.

257 posted on 02/01/2002 12:45:38 PM PST by NittanyLion
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To: Jhoffa_
Oh, whoops.. He's a Republican.

If all republicans were like Ron Paul, I'd vote republican every election.

But unfortunately, he's not only the exception, but he isn't even very well-tolerated by rank and file republicans (who are socialists at heart).

258 posted on 02/01/2002 12:46:16 PM PST by OWK
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To: OWK
It amazes me how all the people could be soooo dumb to elect these commies when they could be electing mental masturbating libertarians.
260 posted on 02/01/2002 12:47:45 PM PST by Ben Ficklin
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