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To: jerrym
Does this make sense?

Jerry, Hi. Yes, it does make sense.

We're discussing the "irresistible" nature of God's calling. If I understand calvinist election correctly, then by logical extension "irresistible grace" is a necessity.

Primitive Baptists have carried this to an extreme and claim there is no practical reason to evangelize because God will not be resisted. I do NOT believe that you believe as the PM's do....I've read your words on that in the past.

However, one must wonder why the grace is resistible at one offering of the gospel and irresistible at another offering of the gospel.

A Calvinist might say, "Who knows the plans and timing of God?" I would say that the enlightenment was real and sufficient but that it was turned down the first time and accepted the second time. I'd also say that person made a better choice the second time than he did the first time.

459 posted on 02/13/2002 7:12:42 AM PST by xzins
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To: xzins; RnMomof7; CCWoody; the_doc; OrthodoxPresbyterian
" I'd also say that person made a better choice the second time than he did the first time."

Please read and re-read your words carefully. If this is the case, in what does that person glory? In his wisdom in making a "better choice" of course. I will glory in the cross.

Yes, the Calvinist does say that we cannot understand the timing of God. I recognize that there were numerous times that I rejected Christ prior to the day that His Spirit wooed me into the Kingdom. I just didn't want anything to do with Him prior to that time. However, I could no more say no to Him on that special day than quit breathing. His drawing of myself to His love was so irresistably sweet that I willingly and longingly embraced Him.

Think about your own experience, I would be surprised if it was not remarkably the same.

(BTW, we have never consider "hyper-Calvinists" to be Calvinists. Their beliefs are repugnant and decidedly anti-Christ.)

460 posted on 02/13/2002 7:32:06 AM PST by Jerry_M
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