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To: moyden
What doctrines? What places? What is the central, specific disagreement?

Doctrine:
What C.H. Spurgeon called "the doctrines of grace", summarized by the acronym TULIP:
T - Total depravity of man
U - Unconditional election
L - Limited atonement
I - Irresistable grace
P - Perseverence of the saints

Places:
Well, most everywhere in protestantism. My experience, as a Baptist, has been the resurrgence of these doctrines as witnessed by the Founders's Movement.

Central specific disagreement:
Take any of the T, U, L, I, or P, and there are those who deny their veracity. Pink's sermon demonstrates that man is spiritually dead (not just sick), or "Totally depraved" and requires the work of the Holy Spirit in regeneration prior to conversion.

45 posted on 02/04/2002 7:14:36 AM PST by Jerry_M
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To: Racebannon;Jerry_M
T - Total depravity of man

U - Unconditional election

L - Limited atonement

I - Irresistable grace

P - Perseverence of the saints

Places: Well, most everywhere in protestantism. My experience, as a Baptist, has been the resurrgence of these doctrines as witnessed by the Founders's Movement.

Hey Race - go figure - didnt you try to tell me there was no such thing as a Calvinistic Baptist a week or two ago? I think your exact words were "Baptists are not Calvinists"

Wesleyan Arminian bump & blessings to my Calvin brethren

57 posted on 02/04/2002 7:59:20 AM PST by Revelation 911
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To: Jerry_M
Thanks for your patience and thoughtfulness. I doubt that any unregenerates can understand "total depravity." I heard the saying "you don't know how bad you are, until you try really hard to be good", but I didn't understand it 'til I became a Christian. Unregenerates might have a list of "dos and don'ts" - but most of the don'ts will be things they don't much like anyway. FReegards
323 posted on 02/10/2002 6:33:27 PM PST by 185JHP
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