Posted on 01/31/2002 5:49:54 PM PST by VectoRama
Well thats just because YOU ARE STILL WORKING for THEM!! You must be part of the COVERUP! {/sarcasm}
Hey, dont you know that on FR we already have amateur aviation and military experts whose knowledge dwarfs yours? What, you worked on a sub? Heck, these guys read an article in popular mechanics about them!
Oh, so true! I had to give up on tinfoil.
A collander works better. Cooler too.It's holes are too small for radio reception, but big enough for ventilation. I attach a bungee cord to the legs as a chin strap. Stays on when I hang my head out the car window.
You all should try it!
So I guess James Kallstrom also had an axe to grind with the Navy when he told Irvine that the Navy was conducting classified maneuvers under the crash..... Surely you can come up with a better cover story than that.
There are two reasons for a coverup. One reason is to keep the trust of the people. When you perpetrate this kind of cover-up, it's to make sure that the citizens have faith in your military, and or leaders. We can look to a few examples like the JFK and MLK assassinations. Another cover up would be Waco. Yet another cover up would be Gary Condit. These are examples of keeping the faith types of coverups.
Then there's the other reason, The reason that you can't explain what happened, because if the truth got out it would bring down governments world wide. These coverups are the kind you see on TV. The UFO things, and the conspiracy type coverups. Things that make the X-files look like non-fiction. If it was a UFO that brought down TWA 800, there would be many questions asked of our government. The first would be, how come we didn't know about it. The next questions would be even more intrusive. How long have aliens been visiting us? Have you made a deal with them for technology. Are abductions happening, and how come you let it happen? Why are our cows being mutilated in goofy ways? How come you're grabbing up so much land, are you making room for them to live in our country too?
The main question I would ask, if it were a UFO accident, is what kind of retribution or apology can we exact upon them?
This is why if you cover it up, just to keep the faith, you're better off, than if it's to hide something more sinister.
I've now removed my tin foil hat.
OK, some problems with your idea:
First, the range of the missile is going to be extremely limited--if by nothing other than the limits on SENSORS passing through the air/water interface. The only thing you're going to be able to rely on that doesn't involve coming to periscope/mast depth and sticking up the BPS-15 radar set will be passive sonar, listening to the noise of the aircraft on the ocean surface. That signal fades out very quickly as the target gains altitude.
Second, a SUBSAM doesn't NEED to reach up to 13,000 feet to bag an ASW aircraft; most ASW ops are flown at much lower altitude.
Third, the missile can easily generate what is known as a "flaming datum." In other words, if the plane manages to get off a warning that it's under missile attack, that area of ocean is going to suddenly have a LOT of ASW aircraft overhead, and any other ASW assets (ships and subs) will start closing in. A submarine's greatest weapon is its stealth. Once it loses that, it's in BIG trouble, as it has very few weapons available to it.
I don't have any specific information. I just remember reading about the development of such a missile about 5 years ago.
I firmly believe it was a terrorist missile or bomb. Stephanopoulos did not call it an accident. He called it a bombing
Those who wear the tin foil are the ones that still believe the government line on this. How many times did the White House mount a situation room scenario due to an airline crash prior to 09/11?
My guess would be zippety doo da outside of the TWA-800 missile downing. It just isn't a White House duty to scramble for an airliner crash. The NTSB takes over and does an investigation.
That one glaring fact seems to be lost on the real tin foilers.
First reports stated that the closest Navy ships were 130 miles away. This was used to discredit the idea that one of them could have fired a missile. Contrast that with what we have just been told. The first statement was a flagrant bald faced lie! There was clearly a significant operation going on that evening, directly under the flight path of TWA-800. We know there was a P3 Orion flying over. It was reportedly discharging flares. Now we know there were three submarines in the area as well.
We haven't heard the last of this. What will become accepted over time, is that our government lied. People will assume that it had a good reason to lie. And over time it will just become accepted that TWA-800 was downed by a missile, perps unknown. Perhaps at some point we'll know that it was our missile, perhaps not.
The facts are that our Commander in Chief, the FBI, the NTSB, the CIA, the Navy and other concerns knew what happened all along. The aircraft was hit by at least one and possibly two missiles. The shooter could very well have been one of ours. I do not believe that a massive coverup would have been launched to avoid us knowing of an act of terrorism.
Due to this incident and several others, our government has severely damaged it's ability to be trusted. Couple the security type problems we are facing with the legislative problems we are facing. Our leaders are passing some incredibly devistating legislation, the full aspects of which will not be realized until years have passed. There isn't any level of government that can be fully trusted. From our farms, to our airports, to our skys, to our borders and to the halls of our givernment buildings, there's a growing odor of doom wafting through our national concience.
I don't like what I'm seeing one bit.
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