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Defense Chief Warns of Threats Far Deadlier Than Sept. 11
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Posted on 01/31/2002 9:30:02 AM PST by RCW2001

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To: Miss Marple
Not everything is done on television, you know.

At least, not with this administration. Nor is everything done for television. How pleasing.

As for China, probably the best offense there is .... Christianity.

There's a reason China is so afraid of group movements like Christianity and the Fulan Gong -- it threatens the commies' authority. And apparently there are something like 50 million Christians in China.

21 posted on 01/31/2002 9:59:10 AM PST by r9etb
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To: RCW2001
National Infrastructure Protection Center
Terrorist Interest in Water Supply and SCADA Systems
Information Bulletin 02-001
29 January 2002

NIPC Information Bulletins communicate issues that pertain to the critical national infrastructure and are for information purposes only.

A computer that belonged to an individual with indirect links to USAMA BIN LADIN contained structural architecture computer programs that suggested the individual was interested in structural engineering as it related to dams and other water-retaining structures. The computer programs included CATIGE, BEAM, AUTOCAD 2000 and MICROSTRAN, as well as programs used to identify and classify soils using the UNIFIED SOIL CLASSIFICATION SYTEM.

In addition, US law enforcement and intelligence agencies have received indications that Al-Qa'ida members have sought information on Supervisory Control And Data Acquisition (SCADA) systems available on multiple SCADA-related Web sites. They specifically sought information on water supply and wastewater management practices in the US and abroad. There has also been interest in insecticides and pest control products at several Web sites.

Recipients can find additional information regarding posting sensitive infrastructure-related information on Internet Web sites in NIPC Advisory 02-001 issued on 17 January 2002 at http://www.nipc.gov/warnings/advisories/2002/02-001.htm. The intent of this advisory was to encourage Internet content providers to review the sensitivity of the data they provide online.

The NIPC encourages recipients of this Information Bulletin to report information concerning criminal or terrorist activity to their local FBI office http://www.fbi.gov/ or the NIPC, and to other appropriate authorities. Recipients may report incidents online at http://www.nipc.gov/incident/cirr.htm , and can reach the NIPC Watch and Warning Unit at (202) 323?3205, 1-888-585-9078 or mailto:nipc.watch@fbi.gov.

22 posted on 01/31/2002 10:00:09 AM PST by archy
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To: Aggie Mama
You bet Aggie, the information and intelligence gathering means and devices are without a doubt mindblowing compared to the past. Have no fear, we have secrets and tricks up our sleeves that no country could ever touch, this is why I sleep well at night. :)
23 posted on 01/31/2002 10:00:51 AM PST by ALfreereeper
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To: Dog
Remember Slick's '96 Election slogan: "A Bridge to the 21st Century"?

Yeah, he gave us a bridge alright! He left the country walking on an 'unprotected', 'booby-trapped', 'terrorist-infested' bridge to NOWHERE!

24 posted on 01/31/2002 10:02:41 AM PST by LibFreeUSA
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To: Bikers4Bush
We must learn to be feared. If anyone dare attack us, they will be destroyed, uterlly, without mercy, without remorse.
25 posted on 01/31/2002 10:05:30 AM PST by ZeitgeistSurfer
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To: LibFreeUSA
Rumsfeld said .....he told the President the other day .....that we have alot to to in the DoD over the next 12 months...
26 posted on 01/31/2002 10:06:58 AM PST by Dog
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To: afz400
"He also mentioned a shortage of manned reconnaissance and surveillance planes, command and control aircraft like the Air Force's AWACS plane,..."

For months now, there's been a row of AWACs planes sitting on the tarmac at Boeing Field, so we must not need them too bad. Speaking of Boeing and China, why are we allowing Boeing to lay off 30,000 Americans while they ship those manufacturing jobs to China? Don't they realize that with the aircraft plans, NC milling machines, the knowledge of what metals to use, and their own trained people, soon the Chinese won't need Boeing. And who's going to manufacture our war planes if/when China ever attacks us?

27 posted on 01/31/2002 10:07:31 AM PST by holyscroller
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To: ZeitgeistSurfer
Ever read the Executive Orders by Tom Clancy??

We need a real life Ryan Doctrine...

We go after the head of State....not just the terrorist grunts..

28 posted on 01/31/2002 10:08:48 AM PST by Dog
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To: Dog
so true.
29 posted on 01/31/2002 10:10:55 AM PST by homeschool mama
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To: Miss Marple;afz400;kidd
I tend to agree with Miss Marple.

This administration is circling around and moving toward China.

The axis nations Bush mentioned all have one thing in common -- ties to China where China has been supplying them with the materials, aid and technology to build WMD and to increase their abilities to wage war on us.

This has not been ignored. In fact the Ambassador to China, Clark Randt, said the other day that proliferation by China is a "make or break" issue.

It is very interesting how this is shaping up. That Bush and his administration are not going to go against trade with China is clear. In that you are right and no one could argue. But it seems the Bush administration is of the idea that trade exists and and is good for the economy and is now an established part of the international economic system.

Yet, this provides an advantage to us in that we can go after the regime without a consequent total loss of relations with China.

Bush's statements have to send shock waves through the ChiCom leadership.

30 posted on 01/31/2002 10:14:53 AM PST by tallhappy
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To: nothingnew
Don't get me wrong...I have the utmost respect for Mr. Rumsfeld. I believe ILLegal immigration is probably our worst domestic threat....JMHO

Eevn prior to 911, I would not agree, but at least then it was a reasonable opinion. Now it just seems like a memory of a quainter time where our biggest worry was about guys trying to get work picking fruit.

31 posted on 01/31/2002 10:17:28 AM PST by tallhappy
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To: Ditter
This is so depressing. Just when I start to think about a peaceful old age, traveling, hunting, fishing & just snuggling with my grandchildren & my dogs. Peace & tranquility are gone in the twinkling of an eye.

Yep, robbed by the Clintons and the RATS! Guess SS and Mediscare are not much good now that we have to live in the shadow of war.

33 posted on 01/31/2002 10:28:30 AM PST by rightwingextremist1776
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To: Miss Marple
good point about not provoking them into attack before we can get our military up to the best that it can be
34 posted on 01/31/2002 10:29:16 AM PST by rwfromkansas
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To: Dog
needless to say, if it happens before Nov. Bush's approval rating will go from record high to record low....I hope and pray it will not happen before Nov. so we can get a GOP congress to get everything we need to try to stop such an attack in the future
35 posted on 01/31/2002 10:32:39 AM PST by rwfromkansas
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To: Miss Marple
I doubt we are ignoring the threat of China at all. It is best not to announce they are an adversary until we are better prepared. In the meanwhile, we buy time with trade, and maybe get a few more converts to our side.

China

United States

How does a country with 278 million people (a chuck of which are illegal aliens, and another chunk draft-dodgers) prepare against a country with 1273 million (1.27 billion) people. Here is a country that has 200 million males fit for military service and their military has not been deployed for stupid United Nations peacekeeping efforts around the globe, as opposed to a country who's military has been downsized for the last 10 years, and has parts all over the place.

36 posted on 01/31/2002 10:32:59 AM PST by Frohickey
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To: nothingnew
Bush has said we need to tighten up the immigration situation. He also supports tracking all visitors to the country.
37 posted on 01/31/2002 10:33:41 AM PST by rwfromkansas
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To: Dog
Ever read the Executive Orders by Tom Clancy??

We need a real life Ryan Doctrine...

We go after the head of State....not just the terrorist grunts..

Don't misunderstand me; I don't necessarily disagree, at least as a general policy, if not an absolute one.

But remember two things before you wish for such a thing: that turn about is fair play, and that for every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction.

Be careful of that for which you wise. It could come true. In spades.

-archy-/-


38 posted on 01/31/2002 10:38:15 AM PST by archy
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To: RCW2001
A mighty blow by its very nature carries its own defense along with it.
39 posted on 01/31/2002 10:39:02 AM PST by Citizen Tom Paine
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To: RCW2001
Defending the United States requires prevention and sometimes pre-emption.

A point every politician will deny, and every statesmen will agree with.

40 posted on 01/31/2002 10:45:16 AM PST by TheDon
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