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Southerners indignant at plan to rename Washington state's Jefferson Davis Highway
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| 1/31/02
| Susanna Ray
Posted on 01/31/2002 4:17:10 AM PST by shuckmaster
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To: 4ConservativeJustices; Red Jones; Morgan's Raider;TLI;ppaul;rebel;Stonewall Jackson; TomServo...
"To say that the war between the states was fought over slavery is like saying the American Revolution was fought over tea,"
To: shuckmaster
"While I'm a believer in the traditional Southern view of states' rights, and believe that Mr. Dunshee has a right to move to change the name of the highway in his state," wrote Jeff Adams from Houston, "I don't think he should be so angry, intolerant and bigoted about it."
That's about all we can say about it unless a bunch of us moved to Washington.
To: shuckmaster
Damn right we're indignant! This is another attempt to revise History by blotting out that chapter!! History is not always pleasant, and it is not always something to be proud of either. I think it cuts back to the quote by George Santanya (not sure of the spelling): "Those who forget their History are doomed to repeat it."
As a Southerner, I am proud of my ancestors that fought for the South, but I'm just as proud of my ancestors that fought for the North! Slavery has nothing to do with it. They fought to protect their homeland, and they were heroes in the truest sense of the word!!
To: Destructor
Dunshee is a history buff who can quote Lincoln's Gettysburg Address and insists that slavery was the real reason the war was fought. LOLOLOL!!!!!! I can quote the Tyrant's speech too, but that doesn't mean I can't see through the crap it and his entire crusade against the South was really about!!
What an idiot
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posted on
01/31/2002 4:50:14 AM PST
by
billbears
To: shuckmaster
Dixie Ping!!
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posted on
01/31/2002 4:59:52 AM PST
by
TomServo
To: shuckmaster
Dunshee is a waste of human flesh. He is trying to curry favor among the black voters of that state. However, if you look at Washington State's populace you will find it is a hotbed of liberalism and PC whores.
I think that the Southern States should, by all means, boycott the State of Washington. Don't buy their damn apples, or travel there. Don't support the Seattle Sonics, Mariners, or Seahawks. Don't buy their logo apparel. Send nasty grams to the State, and blockade their borders .... do like the NAACP is planning to do to SC.
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posted on
01/31/2002 5:05:22 AM PST
by
Colt .45
To: shuckmaster
"If we take away memorials to people who owned slaves, we'd have to change the name of the state of Washington," Good Point!
To: shuckmaster
Dunshee wants to pass a bill to rename the highway after William Stewart, a black man who fought for the North in the Civil War before moving to Snohomish. He also wants to get rid of the marker honoring Davis, whom he called "a guy who led the insurgency to perpetuate slavery and killed half a million Americans." I would love to have a nickel for every bullet hole that will magically appear in the Stewart sign! Swiss cheese anyone?
To: shuckmaster
I find it strange that the emancipation proclamation ONLY freed the slaves in the states loyal to the SOUTH..
(1861)....I, Abraham Lincoln, President of the United States, by virtue of the power in me vested as Commander-in-Chief, of the Army and Navy of the United States in time of actual armed rebellion against authority and government of the United States, and as a fit and necessary war measure for suppressing said rebellion, do, on this first day of January, in the year of our Lord one thousand eight hundred and sixty three, and in accordance with my purpose so to do publicly proclaimed for the full period of one hundred days, from the day first above mentioned, order and designate as the States and parts of States wherein the people thereof respectively, are this day in rebellion against the United States, the following, towit: Arkansas, Texas, Louisiana, (except the Parishes of St. Bernard, Plaquemines, Jefferson, St. Johns, St. Charles, St. James[,] Ascension, Assumption, Terrebonne, Lafourche, St. Mary, St. Martin, and Orleans, including the City of New-Orleans) Mississippi, Alabama, Florida, Georgia, South-Carolina, North-Carolina, and Virginia, (except the fortyeight counties designated as West Virginia, and also the counties of Berkley, Accomac, Northampton, Elizabeth-City, York, Princess Ann, and Norfolk, including the cities of Norfolk & Portsmouth [) ]; and which excepted parts are, for the present, left precisely as if this proclamation were not issued. And by virtue of the power, and for the purpose aforesaid, I do order and declare that all persons held as slaves within said designated States, and parts of States, are, and henceforward shall be free; and that the Executive government of the United States, including the military and naval authorities thereof, will recognize and maintain the freedom of said persons. And I hereby enjoin upon the people so declared to be free to abstain from all violence, unless in necessary self-defence; and I recommend to them that, in all cases when allowed, they labor faithfully for reasonable wages. And I further declare and make known, that such persons of suitable condition, will be received into the armed service of the United States to garrison forts, positions, stations, and other places, and to man vessels of all sorts in said service. And upon this act, sincerely believed to be an act of justice, warranted by the Constitution, upon military necessity, I invoke the considerate judgment of mankind, and the gracious favor of Almighty God.
Slaves in the North and the mentioned states/counties were still SLAVES, owned by their masters. Slavery was not abolished until 1865.
To: shuckmaster
He sent a peace commission to Washington, D.C., after his inauguration, but Abraham Lincoln refused it. It was Lincoln who put the "War" in "Civil".
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posted on
01/31/2002 5:21:55 AM PST
by
Wm Bach
To: shuckmaster
This revisionist BS in Washington is nothing new. King County Washington was named after William Rufus Devane King, Vice President under Franklin Pierce. But in 1986 they "discovered" that Vice President King was a slave owner, so they renamed the county after Martin Luther King, Jr. See
King County MOTION NO. 6461How long will it be before they rename the State of Washington? And you can bet it won't be after Booker T. Washington since he wasn't a member of the NAACP.
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posted on
01/31/2002 5:47:27 AM PST
by
aomagrat
To: TN Republican
Is his birthday a legal holiday in TN?
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To: Colt .45
.... do like the NAACP is planning to do to SC. You mean the NAALCP don't you?
To: shuckmaster
I can't figure out what's stupider:
- Naming a highway in Washington after Jefferson Davis
- Changing the name for political correctness
- Southerners giving a crap about it either way
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posted on
01/31/2002 6:28:53 AM PST
by
dead
To: shuckmaster
How many highways in the south are named for Abraham Lincoln?
To: shuckmaster
Unless I've forgotten my American history (or gotten something mixed up) was Jefferson the Secretary of War during the time that the US and Britain were engaged in a pi$$ing contest over the exact border between Canada and the United States out in that area? Wasn't Pickett (of later Pickett's Charge fame at Gettysburg) a captain or lieutenant in the US Army at the time facing British regulars along the border, ready (almost eager) to fight the Brits in the event border talks weren't successful? Wasn't this where the old
"54'40" Or Fight" motto came from?
Easy enough to see why there might be a Jefferson Davis Highway in Washington State ... some of the state would be missing if it hadn't been for him and George Pickett.
To: Wm Bach
'
It was Lincoln who put the "War" in "Civil".'
Bump, BUMP, BUMP! and BUMP!
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posted on
01/31/2002 6:48:58 AM PST
by
4CJ
To: Lurking Libertarian
If that's a serious question, I would guess the number over 1,000 & certainly in the 100's. Similar numbers of schools & parks.
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