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1 posted on 01/30/2002 3:51:59 PM PST by AAABEST
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You did OK; the list is something for serious consideration; and thank you.

Bush seems to have little interest in how the Constitution limits government, as well as little experience with how there are alternatives ... something which was the nature of Ronald Reagan to make note of (such as in the debates v. Carter during the 1980 campaign).

Other than the spending, what I do not like in the above, he encourages violating the border of our country, aliens inserting themselves (and he presumes, family) in some advance position of the line of people wishing to live in the U.S., and thus violating a number of federal laws ... is "family values" not stopping at the border; while of course, should such people who are in violation of the laws decide to squat on Bush's property or Ted Kennedy's property, well, then there'd be some legislation introduced to put and end to it; because when it personally affects such "higher-ups," they suddenly see more of the reasons why we have such laws about our borders.

The President is NOT respecting all the people who are adhering to the law ... so for aliens, why should they at all?

The land and peoples property and welfare in these United States, are not Bush's to give away.

46 posted on 01/30/2002 4:14:35 PM PST by First_Salute
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To: AAABEST
This one is scary and yes, Orwellian.
47 posted on 01/30/2002 4:14:47 PM PST by incindiary
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Huge education spending bill (i.e. Federal Local School Board Bribery Act) which liberal Democrats love that doesn't mention a word about choice or local control

Which includes standards for schools. Also for the first time Pubbies are at parity with demo's in the polls when it comes to education. Education is not a demo issue anymore and the public is willing to listen to pubbies when it comes to education, not dispel them outright.

Food stamps for immigrants

Food stamps for "legal" immigrants. Anyway the five year limit for welfare still stands.

Largest spending bill in American History. The first to exceed 2 trillion dollars

With most of the increase going to defense.

The Airport Security Bill that completely takes control of over 28,000 screening jobs. Now it seems that they don't even have to be high school graduates either. The big difference, they can't be fired.

Too bad, most Americans wanted the airport screeners to be "federalized"(although I didn't). Bush unlike you doesn't have a politcal death wish.

100 million for welfare moms.

Yeah so, also this program, I beleive, also wants to encourage marriage.

Hugely Expanding Clinton's Amercorps boondoggle that all conservatives railed against

Uh Clinton's Americorps was feel good gobbledygook, IMHO. This is more like the civil defense program of the 50's.

Kowtowing to law breaking illegal immigrants by proposing amnesty. Speaking of illegal immigrants who sneak across the border; "And we've got to respect that, seems like to me, and treat those people with respect," he added. "I remind people all across our country: Family values do not stop at the border.

Uh please show me an official proposal where "blanket amnesty" has been proposed?

38 Billion for a new Homeland Security bureaucracy that allots a 20% increase for border control. Guess what. It goes to our problematic Canadian border, with not a dollar spent on the Mexican border. Read it for yourself

Fine you defend the homeland all by yourself. I guess 9/11 will never ever happen again.

The Orwellian "Patriot Act" that gives Federal authorities carte blanche to rifle through all of your digital communications and essentially, rob your house without notice.

Like i said before I guess 9/11 will never ever happen again.

71.5 billion over 10 years for government health care

And proposing market reforms in Medicare.

Not releasing appropriate documents on Clinton and FBI corruption.

Not releasing documents to a grand standing committee(the FBI documents), and getting hit by 60 minutes for not doing so, while court cases are still going on, is a good idea in my book.

AAABEST, you have gotten all your pet peeves out. Do you feel better. Would you feel better if Gore was President?

51 posted on 01/30/2002 4:16:03 PM PST by Dane
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Good post — hopefully it will attract some much-needed attention.
53 posted on 01/30/2002 4:17:43 PM PST by Polonius
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The actual fact is that nothing matters up to a point as long as he lowers taxes lower taxes lead to more revenue and health care is already screwed up.
56 posted on 01/30/2002 4:19:50 PM PST by weikel
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bttt
57 posted on 01/30/2002 4:20:02 PM PST by LiberteeBell
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All of this is quite interesting, and it is slightly amusing, eventhough it is even more disturbing, to watch the apologetics which come from Freepers on a daily basis.

Luckily, I have a clear conscience and don't have to lie to myself about Bush's "conservatism". I didn't vote for him.

58 posted on 01/30/2002 4:20:37 PM PST by ThJ1800
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He's a globalist -- and I don't mean part of a secret cabal. He just happens to abide by the principles of globalism. I have no idea how or why someone becomes a globalist, but it seems to be the thread of commonality among most (or all) of our presidents now. (JMHO)

George Bush also seems somewhat of a moderate, which I think most people were aware of prior to his election.

I actually think there is a place for some of these proposals. My evaluation is given below:

(-) Huge education spending bill (i.e. Federal Local School Board Bribery Act) which liberal Democrats love that doesn't mention a word about choice or local control.

(+) Food stamps for immigrants.

(-) Largest spending bill in American History. The first to exceed 2 trillion dollars.

(-) The Airport Security Bill that completely takes control of over 28,000 screening jobs. Now it seems that they don't even have to be high school graduates either. The big difference, they can't be fired.

(+) 100 million for welfare moms.

(?) Hugely Expanding Clinton's Amercorps boondoggle that all conservatives railed against.

(-) Kowtowing to law breaking illegal immigrants by proposing amnesty. Speaking of illegal immigrants who sneak across the border; "And we've got to respect that, seems like to me, and treat those people with respect," he added. "I remind people all across our country: Family values do not stop at the border."

(-) . 38 Billion for a new Homeland Security bureaucracy that allots a 20% increase for border control. Guess what. It goes to our problematic Canadian border, with not a dollar spent on the Mexican border. Read it for yourself

(-) The Orwellian "Patriot Act" that gives Federal authorities carte blanche to rifle through all of your digital communications and essentially, rob your house without notice.

(-) 71.5 billion over 10 years for government health care.

(-) Not releasing appropriate documents on Clinton and FBI corruption.

60 posted on 01/30/2002 4:22:10 PM PST by UberVernunft
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"I and others can no longer continue to support him....on principle."

If you do not want to support Bush, who are you going to support?

63 posted on 01/30/2002 4:22:42 PM PST by Jim Robinson
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It's not my purpose (at least at this point) to get GWB un-elected...<

No need Bush will do that all on his own, Like his father before him, GWB will over the course of his presidency alienate all his conservative support. He has already received every vote he will ever receive from me.

69 posted on 01/30/2002 4:25:23 PM PST by TightSqueeze
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[Waving hand in calm Jedi mind trick manner] George Bush is not a socialist...
83 posted on 01/30/2002 4:31:06 PM PST by Lumberjack
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To: AAABEST
I agree with you....but in fact you are pulling your punches.
89 posted on 01/30/2002 4:35:07 PM PST by alphadog
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This is one of my biggest complaints.

I resent being forced to scrupulously adhere to every law, ordinance and regulation ever passed while an entire class of criminals get treated like visiting dignitaries.

It's not fair, it's not consistent and it amounts to little more than pandering. It's also an issue the Democrats and the Republicans are both pointedly ignoring.

PS: There was another thread posted HERE By Race Bannon that should accompany your link.

91 posted on 01/30/2002 4:35:38 PM PST by Jhoffa_
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However, if he keeps ignoring conservative principles and promoting a larger more intrusive government, I and others can no longer continue to support him....on principle.

We are registered Republican,..but are actually Non partisan. (Don't like the label of Independent,..though we do use it, as it is the only "label" that would describe our "decision" making).

I have this to ask you after your statement. Who WOULD you support then? Gore? Lieberman? Another Dem?? Do you honestly think they would be for "less" Govt. spending??

We happen to be willing to watch President Bush's plans in action. We happen to think it may all just work out fine. We don't "agree" with 100percent of his idea's. But there never will be a President who we do that with. That just seems to good to ever be true. And we have both been around for a while. But this man,.. President Bush, is actually getting it right ,.. in our opinion.. better than any President so far in our lives. I even dare say.. better than Reagan. We think time will prove that. (Of course, President Reagan was a great President..and we will always honor him in this house!).

I think you need to look at all sides of an issue before you post such rubbish. The term.. "naysayer" comes to mind.

Our defense must come first.. and if you think that is cheap.. you're truly naive.

BTW,.. I could care less if you were a member of the young republicans.. does that mean you learned anything?? Obviously not. You also dare to speak for a large group of people. If your going to do that.. you might have people who are willing to sign their names in order to validate it.

FRegards!

93 posted on 01/30/2002 4:36:59 PM PST by Vets_Husband_and_Wife
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You've hit the nail on the head. Excellent post.

There's no real differences between the Demopublican and Republicrat parties any more. They're just offering two different flavors of Socialism - like a choice between milk chocolate or dark chocolate ice cream.

103 posted on 01/30/2002 4:42:42 PM PST by Arleigh
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Unfortunately, this is the unpleasant truth. The RINOs are in charge in Washington much to the detriment of the Republican Party and its Conservative principles. Bush barely squeaked in with the help of anti-Clinton sentiment. Clinton was so far to the left that he made RINOs look like they were to the right. Instead of drastically rolling back the abuses of the liberals in the past,the RINOs pay lip service to Conservatives while enlarging big government, not shutting the door to anti-American immigrants, have citizens lose more freedoms since 911 when the solution is take away the freedom of the region these thugs come from, etc. The losing election results in 2001 clearly indicates the phoniness of the popularity polls and what a lousy job the current RINO leadership is doing. The RINOs precipitating to the left have no more anti-Clinton feelings to help them win in coming elections. They are of course busy halting investigations of Clinton abuses as they just want to get along and seem above the fray of being political!
117 posted on 01/30/2002 4:54:55 PM PST by TransOxus
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Bookmarked. Thanks.
122 posted on 01/30/2002 5:01:33 PM PST by Inspector Harry Callahan
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I agree with you. His speech sound so illuminist, so nazi, so globalist, and so NWO it ain't funny. Parts of his speech sound as if Daddy Bush wrote it.
126 posted on 01/30/2002 5:03:50 PM PST by AMMON-CENTRIST
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For what it's worth I largely agree with you. Though, I have to say if he keeps cutting taxes and keeps spending in line with the revenues, I don't care if he gives it all to welfare moms, as long as the country is defended. Isn't that after all the first priority of government?
135 posted on 01/30/2002 5:10:47 PM PST by WriteOn
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Good post AAABEST, and I agree with just about all of it.
139 posted on 01/30/2002 5:11:57 PM PST by Joe Hadenuf
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