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Muslim Woman Sues over Drivers License [FL: Show your face on driver license photo; FL Woman: No]
The Orlando Sentinel ^
| Jan. 30, 2002
| P. Gutierrez and A. Rippel
Posted on 01/29/2002 11:01:29 PM PST by summer
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To: weegee
Not just a troll, a banned troll back with a new name. Yeah, and did you see how he claimed that his identity was based on his deathless prose, not his screen name? Unfortunately, there are so many condescending twits on the internet, that it's hard to identify him just on that!
To: Xenalyte
"I oughta post my driver's license picture on my profile page. I look insane - wild-eyed and large-haired - absolutely nothing like my profile pics. (My own mother asked me if I got blasted before I went in for the renewal.)" When I last got my license renewed, the dolt at the machine refused to proceed unless I took off my glasses and smiled. The result is a DL photo that looks like an old drunk on a bad day. (The previous DL photo had me looking like a kneecap-buster, I guess there's no winning with these folks...)
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posted on
01/30/2002 12:25:22 PM PST
by
Don Joe
To: Sugar and Spice
You:"Don't Americans try to impose their Western Standards on everyone else?"
Why, of course. Ours work.
To: summer
When do the deportation proceedings begin?
Precisely HOW would one verify that this was a female Muslim behind the veil?
To: JD86
Seems to me we never heard about silliness like this before the attacks. Did the Muslims decide to be "opressed" now, too?
As an aside, I'm always amazed when an American CONVERTS to Islam. I usually think they're A. looking for attention, or B. In prison and bored.
To: veronica
Bump. The silliness continues.
To: DJ88
Re your post #321 -- An image of her actual license in full was posted earlier on this thread. This is the actual photo of her.
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posted on
01/30/2002 12:49:05 PM PST
by
summer
To: Southern Federalist
Re your post 267 - Thanks for posting that interesting link.
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posted on
01/30/2002 12:50:08 PM PST
by
summer
To: be131
Even Saudi Arabia has started introducing full-face ID cards for women.
Very interesting.
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posted on
01/30/2002 12:55:24 PM PST
by
summer
To: Mark17
Yes. Count me in on this one!
To: summer
When I was in Saudi Arabia I needed a drivers license in connection with my work. One of the requirements for a foreigner (infidel) to get a license was that first he had to give a pint of blood because the good muslims would not. I would submit that being photographed is a much less onerous requirement. P.S. Why can't these good peaceful people simply respect American customs?
To: mvpel
Re your post #325 and your post #305 -- But I think in your post #305 you actually provided the legal grounds as to why she DOES need to comply with FL state law in the subject regard:
...only so far restrained as the Rights of others may make it necessary for the welfare of all other citizens.
I think it would an unnecessary burden on society -- especially a police officer who may pull her over and try to determine if SHE is actually the person on the license.
Because as you know, someone else may actually be using her license.
Who knows all the friends of this woman? What if she hangs out with terrorists? I'm not saying she does -- but do you know for sure she doesn't? Also -- can you guarantee that her license info will never be stolen by terrorists, as it seems to me they would just LOVE this kind of no-photo license to carry around for their female suicide bombers!
Consequently, for many reasons, I don't think she has a leg to stand on here.
My welfare as a citizen depends on that cop being able to do his or her job. If FL issued licenses her way, that cop has no way of knowing who he or she actually pulled over. She is the one who needs restrained in this matter. Not the cop.
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posted on
01/30/2002 1:06:27 PM PST
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summer
To: summer
She [this Muslim woman filing suit] is the one who needs restrained in this matter
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posted on
01/30/2002 1:07:38 PM PST
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summer
To: JD86
Thanks for your posts, JD86. :)
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posted on
01/30/2002 1:08:26 PM PST
by
summer
To: conqueror
One of the requirements for a foreigner (infidel) to get a license was that first he had to give a pint of blood because the good muslims would not. I would submit that being photographed is a much less onerous requirement
I agree!
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posted on
01/30/2002 1:12:48 PM PST
by
summer
To: BrooklynGOP
It doesn't mean that she moved to the States. She might have been born here. After all it says in the second paragraph of the article that she
Sultaana Freeman,former evangelist preacher converted to Islam about five years ago
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posted on
01/30/2002 1:20:16 PM PST
by
Kaslin
To: All
Check out this article from the CAIR site about a similar Florida case:
Head covering keeps woman from getting ID photo taken (By CINDI BROWNFIELD, Daytona Beach News-Journal, 1/24/2002)
Najat Tamim-Muhammad considers herself a deeply religious woman. So devout, in fact, that it may keep her from getting a Florida driver's license.
Tamim-Muhammad, 41, a practicing Muslim, is battling the state Department of Highway Safety and Motor Vehicles over the agency's requirement that she remove her head covering, a scarf called the "hijab," for her photograph on a state-issued identification card. State law, which also applies to driver's licenses, requires "a full-face photograph."
"To take it off would be the equivalent of some other woman being forced to remove her blouse," said Ibrahim Hooper, spokesman for the Council on American-Islamic Relations, a Washington, D.C.-based Islamic advocacy group.
Practicing Muslim women are required by their religion to keep all but their face and hands covered while in public...
To: Mark17
I hope you are right, but you know how PC is these days. Yep, and I just feel it deep inside that they are going to cave into this issue. I'd be suprised if the state holds it's ground on this.
To: summer
Ok..I'll check it out. I guess it was "superimposed" over the license then? Not that I really care that much, just curious.
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posted on
01/30/2002 1:53:57 PM PST
by
DJ88
To: WindRiverShoshoni
From your first post, on this thread, it was patently obvious, that you were here to just play games. Of course you aren't " serious ", and this is all just mind games / fun, or you. That makes you a fraud .
Either stay on topic (you haven't, but instead, engaged in misdidrection / personal attacks / pushing other's buttons), or don't reply. That is the newly stated directive from Jim. : - )
Again with the personal attacks ? You have become so predictable, boring, and irrelivant. Thanks for the laugh.
Wrong case, and even when that was continuously pointed out to you, you ignored it . This isn't about you; no matter what you think. Having trouble concentrating ?
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