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Muslim Woman Sues over Drivers License [FL: Show your face on driver license photo; FL Woman: No]
The Orlando Sentinel ^ | Jan. 30, 2002 | P. Gutierrez and A. Rippel

Posted on 01/29/2002 11:01:29 PM PST by summer

Muslim woman sues state over drivers license



By Pedro Ruz Gutierrez and Amy Rippel |
Sentinel Staff Writers
Posted January 30, 2002

WINTER PARK -- A 34-year-old woman is suing the state for suspending her Florida drivers license after she refused to have her photo taken without an Islamic veil.

Sultaana Freeman, a former evangelist preacher who converted to Islam about five years ago and wears the traditional niqab, says her religion doesn't allow her to show her face to strangers.

She filed suit earlier this month asking an Orange County judge to review her case.

"I don't show my face to strangers or unrelated males," Freeman said in an interview Tuesday at the office of her American Civil Liberties Union attorney. Only her emerald-green eyes and mascara showed through her veil.

The niqab is different from a hijab, or partial head covering, which doesn't hide the face and which some Muslim women wear for their drivers license photos.

Freeman, who is on an apparent collision course with the state, is bracing for a possible showdown on the fundamental freedoms of the U.S. Constitution.

"Florida law requires a full facial view of a person on their drivers license photo," said Robert Sanchez, a spokesman for the Department of Highway Safety and Motor Vehicles. "We have no choice but to enforce it."

Florida law says license applicants shall be issued "a color photographic or digital imaged drivers license bearing a full-face photograph."

ACLU lawyer Howard Marks argues that the law is vague. "I don't think the state statutes mandate a photograph," he said.

Marks said he also will cling to a state law on religious freedom that states the "government shall not substantially burden a person's exercise of religion. "

Barry University Professor Robert Whorf said the state is probably within its right to ask for a full-facial photograph. "It makes common sense if the state of Florida were discriminating against her because of her religion; that would more likely be unconstitutional," he said. "If the state of Florida's rationale for insisting the veil not cover the face is for law-enforcement purposes that apply to everyone, then clearly the state of Florida is not discriminating against anyone for religious reasons."


To husband Abdul-Malik, also known as Mark Freeman, the state's action is an infringement on his and his wife's rights.

"It's a reflection of Sept. 11," said Abdul-Malik, 40, a 1980 Edgewater High School graduate and 1984 Florida State University graduate.

The Freemans said they only want recognition that their interpretation of Islam requires women to cover their faces.

Sultaana Freeman said she never had trouble in Illinois, where she worked as a civil engineer with the state's utilities company. That state, without objection, issued her license with a photo that showed only her eyes.

Her Florida license was issued with her face covered last February, but the state demanded a new photo without her veil in November. State record checks began after Sept. 11.

Altaf Ali, executive director of the Florida chapter of the Council on American-Islamic Relations, said he knows of three other times Muslim women were refused Florida drivers licenses because of their headdresses. "I'm sure there's a lot more that's happening and not getting reported," he said.

Ali is asking the state to clarify its policy on religiously mandated clothes, and he wants the state to train employees about Muslim needs.

Yasmin Khan, 39, of West Palm Beachsaid she tangled with motor-vehicle officials when she was refused a drivers license in mid-December. Khan, a native of Trinidad and a Muslim, said she pulled her headdress back to her hairline -- as far as her religious beliefs would allow -- for the Dec. 17 photo but was told she needed to remove it completely. When she refused, she was denied a drivers license, she said.

"I decided to call anybody and everybody because I needed my license. I have kids, and I need to leave my home," she said.

Two days later, after getting help from local politicians, Khan was photographed with her hijab pulled back for her new drivers license.

In Daytona Beach earlier this month, Najat Tamim-Muhammad, 41, was refused a Florida identification card because she declined to remove her hijab.

Two years ago, Tamim-Muhammad, a native of Morocco, removed her headdress for the ID photo, but her husband said she did it only because she spoke no English and was unsure of her legal rights.

Idris Muhammad, her husband, said they plan to go back to the office to explain to a supervisor why she cannot remove the hijab. They hope to have the photo taken at that time.

"We understand the fear that comes with dealing with people you don't know or understand," he said. "In my opinion, it violates our equal rights under the law. Most people, when you sit down and explain why the women wear the hijab and the seriousness of not having it on, understand."

Amy C. Rippel can be reached at arippel@orlandosentinel.com or 407-420-5736. Pedro Ruz Gutierrez can be reached at pruz@orlandosentinel.com or 407-420-5620.


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To: BrooklynGOP
Well, then why did she move to US? She knew well ahead that this is not an islamic state.

She's a convert, probably a born and bred American, black muslim with a chip on her shoulder. She doesn't want to get her picture taken? Fine, no Drivers License...period. I am sick to death of muslims of all stripes and all varieties. I'm sick of the whining and complaining of these people.I'm compleyely fed up with all things muslim...period.

281 posted on 01/30/2002 8:12:19 AM PST by pgkdan
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To: mmmmmmmm....... donuts
I don't know that it will -- but I think it may be a lot harder to find terrorists by posting photos of thumbprints in post offices rather than mug shots.
282 posted on 01/30/2002 8:12:25 AM PST by summer
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To: txzman
Those who say otherwise - i.e. "We are all the children of Abraham and worship the same God" are fools". Western travellers to the Middle East have been writing for hundreds of years on the easily-seen coming storm that eventually will pit Islam against Christianity once again.

Amen brother!!! Their aim is an islamic America with Sharia law and muslim leaders. They've said it openly for years and there's plenty of evidence. I consider all things muslim to be at the very least highly suspect, most I consider enemies.

283 posted on 01/30/2002 8:16:04 AM PST by pgkdan
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To: summer
Let her sue. Somewhere down the road; someone is going to be able to enforce the law and these idiots are just going to be out of luck. Let her go back to her own country where she can't drive, etc.
284 posted on 01/30/2002 8:16:08 AM PST by freekitty
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To: summer
Seems pretty simple to me. A driver's license is a form of ID and as such it better darn well have a full facial picture. I think the *other* states (which currently allow head coverings) need to change their laws. If it doesn't show your face, it's not an ID.

However the woman's religious feelings should be respected as far as possible... she could request to be photographed by a female photographer etc.

285 posted on 01/30/2002 8:16:54 AM PST by luckyluke
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To: nopardons
Gee, what good spelling you have!!!!!!
286 posted on 01/30/2002 8:17:44 AM PST by Sugar and Spice
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To: StayoutdaBushesWay
Yes and I've had it with the ACLU! They are one organization that is a huge part of this country falling to pieces!!

I'll be watching this one closely as I hope that the state doesn't cave in to these stupid demands.

I hope you are right, but you know how PC is these days.

287 posted on 01/30/2002 8:17:49 AM PST by Mark17
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To: mmmmmmmm....... donuts
u can use a thumbprint too.

Not a solution unless you equip every cop and clerk with the technology to tell one thumb print from another at 30 feet away as well as they could between faces . . . and then give them a lifetime of informal training in thumbprint differentiation.

I'll look forward to seeing those thumbprints of the FBI ten most wanted on the Post Office bulletin board too.

Human face recognition may not be perfect, but it has some huge advantages for security purposes. A thumbprint is no substitute, though it's obviously nice to have in addition.

288 posted on 01/30/2002 8:17:51 AM PST by Harp
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To: summer
No quarter! Show your face or be damned.
289 posted on 01/30/2002 8:19:47 AM PST by aculeus
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To: aculeus
fine then...put a bull ring in her nose the size of a horse collar.........no harm no foul.....NEXT
290 posted on 01/30/2002 8:21:04 AM PST by cactusSharp
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To: Sugar and Spice
They would rather die than convert to your religion, or lack of, too!

Well, after seeing those airplanes crash into the WTC and Pentagon, I think you are right. I just wish when they assume room temp, that they would not take Americans with them.

291 posted on 01/30/2002 8:21:58 AM PST by Mark17
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To: Cobra64
Most American women should take up the practice of face covering! They might look a lot better!
292 posted on 01/30/2002 8:23:22 AM PST by Sugar and Spice
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To: summer
Shaddup, beeatch. You wanna drive in that state, abide by the law and take the veil off for one minute.
293 posted on 01/30/2002 8:27:08 AM PST by Floratina
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To: Whey
Exactly! Do they ask women who are wearing wigs to remove them for their photos? What about when they go thru airport security? I can hear it now, mam, you are going to have to remove your wig for security reasons! LOL
294 posted on 01/30/2002 8:28:31 AM PST by Sugar and Spice
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To: summer
IMHO, we need four holidays (dates to be voted on) each requiring a pilgrimage to different sites that, of course, will change from year to year.
295 posted on 01/30/2002 8:31:27 AM PST by Razz Barry
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To: Pistias
That's what you get for thinking because you thought wrong!!
296 posted on 01/30/2002 8:32:46 AM PST by Sugar and Spice
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To: WindRiverShoshoni
However, the driver's license is a common means of identification and she would be required to show it every time she wrote a check and in many other common situations.

Yes! There is a reason why businesses need identification for transactions. Why should they take the risk of financial loss because the "face" in the picture ID shows only some cloth?

If she is not willing to respect the customs (oh, and the law, too) in America, we will not punish her. We will merely ignore her.

Why does she need a drivers license? American women in Saudi Arabia must ride in the rear seat and a male must drive. What's wrong with that Muslim practice for her transportation here?

297 posted on 01/30/2002 8:36:13 AM PST by Diojneez
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To: txzman

National ID Rejected by Muslims - Churches Don't Care!

Amazing. Perhaps Israel's God is doing to America what He once did to Israel - Beat the un-holy crap out of her.

What a waste of time for Rabbi Jesus to write Revelation; say how much He hated one-world, one-mark schemes, and then pronounce the only curse found in the New Testament upon anyone who accepts these things. How useless: because the so-called churches don't care.

Here is my test to the "preachers": If you really believe that the "Mark of the Beast" sends you to Gey Hinnom then say "DO NOT ACCEPT IT OR ASSIST ANYONE IMPLEMENTING IT".

Since that would be a political statement- the cowards will not speak as quoted, but make it passive. As evil as Allah is, the christians help him survive!

Right now, only the Jews say emphatically: DO NOT SUBMIT. RESIST . If a driver permit means National ID, then end driver permits.

Defect. Repent. Do not comply. To Gey Hinnom with the "clergy', along with Allah and his consort Gaia.
298 posted on 01/30/2002 8:36:33 AM PST by Israel
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To: Sugar and Spice
Wigs and toupes are exempt as best I can tell -- though I suppose some of the worst ones may look like hats, or very still animals.
299 posted on 01/30/2002 8:38:04 AM PST by Harp
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To: summer
British soccer fans have a ready alternative, as I recall..... 8-)
300 posted on 01/30/2002 8:38:20 AM PST by tracer
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