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Muslim Woman Sues over Drivers License [FL: Show your face on driver license photo; FL Woman: No]
The Orlando Sentinel ^ | Jan. 30, 2002 | P. Gutierrez and A. Rippel

Posted on 01/29/2002 11:01:29 PM PST by summer

Muslim woman sues state over drivers license



By Pedro Ruz Gutierrez and Amy Rippel |
Sentinel Staff Writers
Posted January 30, 2002

WINTER PARK -- A 34-year-old woman is suing the state for suspending her Florida drivers license after she refused to have her photo taken without an Islamic veil.

Sultaana Freeman, a former evangelist preacher who converted to Islam about five years ago and wears the traditional niqab, says her religion doesn't allow her to show her face to strangers.

She filed suit earlier this month asking an Orange County judge to review her case.

"I don't show my face to strangers or unrelated males," Freeman said in an interview Tuesday at the office of her American Civil Liberties Union attorney. Only her emerald-green eyes and mascara showed through her veil.

The niqab is different from a hijab, or partial head covering, which doesn't hide the face and which some Muslim women wear for their drivers license photos.

Freeman, who is on an apparent collision course with the state, is bracing for a possible showdown on the fundamental freedoms of the U.S. Constitution.

"Florida law requires a full facial view of a person on their drivers license photo," said Robert Sanchez, a spokesman for the Department of Highway Safety and Motor Vehicles. "We have no choice but to enforce it."

Florida law says license applicants shall be issued "a color photographic or digital imaged drivers license bearing a full-face photograph."

ACLU lawyer Howard Marks argues that the law is vague. "I don't think the state statutes mandate a photograph," he said.

Marks said he also will cling to a state law on religious freedom that states the "government shall not substantially burden a person's exercise of religion. "

Barry University Professor Robert Whorf said the state is probably within its right to ask for a full-facial photograph. "It makes common sense if the state of Florida were discriminating against her because of her religion; that would more likely be unconstitutional," he said. "If the state of Florida's rationale for insisting the veil not cover the face is for law-enforcement purposes that apply to everyone, then clearly the state of Florida is not discriminating against anyone for religious reasons."


To husband Abdul-Malik, also known as Mark Freeman, the state's action is an infringement on his and his wife's rights.

"It's a reflection of Sept. 11," said Abdul-Malik, 40, a 1980 Edgewater High School graduate and 1984 Florida State University graduate.

The Freemans said they only want recognition that their interpretation of Islam requires women to cover their faces.

Sultaana Freeman said she never had trouble in Illinois, where she worked as a civil engineer with the state's utilities company. That state, without objection, issued her license with a photo that showed only her eyes.

Her Florida license was issued with her face covered last February, but the state demanded a new photo without her veil in November. State record checks began after Sept. 11.

Altaf Ali, executive director of the Florida chapter of the Council on American-Islamic Relations, said he knows of three other times Muslim women were refused Florida drivers licenses because of their headdresses. "I'm sure there's a lot more that's happening and not getting reported," he said.

Ali is asking the state to clarify its policy on religiously mandated clothes, and he wants the state to train employees about Muslim needs.

Yasmin Khan, 39, of West Palm Beachsaid she tangled with motor-vehicle officials when she was refused a drivers license in mid-December. Khan, a native of Trinidad and a Muslim, said she pulled her headdress back to her hairline -- as far as her religious beliefs would allow -- for the Dec. 17 photo but was told she needed to remove it completely. When she refused, she was denied a drivers license, she said.

"I decided to call anybody and everybody because I needed my license. I have kids, and I need to leave my home," she said.

Two days later, after getting help from local politicians, Khan was photographed with her hijab pulled back for her new drivers license.

In Daytona Beach earlier this month, Najat Tamim-Muhammad, 41, was refused a Florida identification card because she declined to remove her hijab.

Two years ago, Tamim-Muhammad, a native of Morocco, removed her headdress for the ID photo, but her husband said she did it only because she spoke no English and was unsure of her legal rights.

Idris Muhammad, her husband, said they plan to go back to the office to explain to a supervisor why she cannot remove the hijab. They hope to have the photo taken at that time.

"We understand the fear that comes with dealing with people you don't know or understand," he said. "In my opinion, it violates our equal rights under the law. Most people, when you sit down and explain why the women wear the hijab and the seriousness of not having it on, understand."

Amy C. Rippel can be reached at arippel@orlandosentinel.com or 407-420-5736. Pedro Ruz Gutierrez can be reached at pruz@orlandosentinel.com or 407-420-5620.


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To: summer
If I had a face like hers, I would not want to show it either.
201 posted on 01/30/2002 5:01:27 AM PST by Texbob
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To: zandtar
She probably is part of the 99% of the Muslim religion who think Bin Laden is an extremist

ROFL

Well, that's the party line these days, I know, but the reality is somewhat different (95% of educated Saudi males between 17-41 support bin Laden).

202 posted on 01/30/2002 5:05:19 AM PST by B Knotts
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To: summer

I'm too sexy for my burka,
too sexy for my niqab,
too sexy in the can
too sexy for the talaban.
too sexy for a man!
Too sexy for the rates
Too sexy for the states.

203 posted on 01/30/2002 5:12:15 AM PST by SERE_DOC
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To: All
With appologies I just had to do the previous post.
204 posted on 01/30/2002 5:13:34 AM PST by SERE_DOC
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To: BrooklynGOP
" Well, then why did she move to US? She knew well ahead that this is not an islamic state. "

Not Yet.

205 posted on 01/30/2002 5:17:36 AM PST by Republic of Texas
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To: summer
Infringement of constitutional rights my hairy Republican a$$. You're in our world now lady, you play by our rules.
206 posted on 01/30/2002 5:19:45 AM PST by maxwell
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To: summer
Guess she could go to Saudi or some other muslim country where women aren't allowed to drive a car.
207 posted on 01/30/2002 5:26:07 AM PST by Texas Mom
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To: WindRiverShoshoni
Re your post #66 -- What it looks like to me is that the real problem here that has people so wound up is that she's muslim.

No, the real problem is the one I described to you in my post #53 -- I noticed you have not commented on my points therein. I am curious what you have to say to the question I raised: Is she also not required to give a photo for a mug shot and for a possport?

I am genuinely interested in why you think she should not give a mug shot if arrested, or a passport photo for an American passport.
208 posted on 01/30/2002 5:37:49 AM PST by summer
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To: summer
possport? = passport
209 posted on 01/30/2002 5:38:24 AM PST by summer
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You know I was asked to remove my headcovering for a drivers license photo here in Texas a couple of years ago. When I explained to the lady doing the photo that as a Mennonite I was never seen in public without my head covered, she just took the photo. Now I know this is different than my face being covered, BUT why did she want my headcovering (which just covers the crown of my head) off? I think sometimes it is just knee jerk to object to anyone different. Your average sheep will just do what they tell you to do.
210 posted on 01/30/2002 5:43:08 AM PST by Whey
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To: WindRiverShoshoni
Re your post #71 -- Seriously, the cases aren't parallel, and she'd have her picture taken

OK, I apologize as I found your reply above. But how you can say, with a straight face, that the cases "aren't" parallel? Of course they are. Exactly the same. The state, for law enforcement purposes, is again requiring a photo. Sounds EXACTLY the same to me.

I am sorry but I disagree with you on your two main points here:

(1) It is way too big a burden to ask someone to provide a photo to comply with the law (NO, it is NOT a "substantial" burden); and

(2) Now, you are going to play 'pick and choose' when she has to give a photo and when she does not -- are you willing to defend MY right to ALSO 'pick and choose' when I feel like giving a photo?

Because if you are as willing to fight for MY desire for PRIVACY as HER desire for PRIVACY then maybe we could be on the same page -- but, I have a feeling you desire to defend ends with her. I am excluded. I am discriminated against. Right? I am not trying to be funny here. It is infuriating to me that I have NO privacy or choice in these matters -- but SHE and ONLY she should. NOT FAIR.
211 posted on 01/30/2002 5:45:26 AM PST by summer
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To: Whey
Uh, did you SEE the photo of HER driver's license in the article? Pulling her license was not "knee-jerk" in my opinion.
212 posted on 01/30/2002 5:46:27 AM PST by summer
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To: summer
you desire = your desire
213 posted on 01/30/2002 5:47:25 AM PST by summer
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To: summer
I agree. Did not mean in this case it was knee-jerk. I just mean that sometimes the people taking the photos and doing the renewals have the reasoning capacity of a tree.
214 posted on 01/30/2002 5:49:36 AM PST by Whey
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To: summer
pure garbage
215 posted on 01/30/2002 5:50:55 AM PST by PISANO
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To: NYCVirago
Yeah, driver's license pictures are soooo hot. Women, forget those Glamour Shots; you get your man going by simply showing him a snapshot courtesy of your state's driver's license bureau!

LOL.......
216 posted on 01/30/2002 5:51:06 AM PST by summer
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To: summer
Sorry Lady...No flicky...no ticky!
217 posted on 01/30/2002 5:51:08 AM PST by lawdude
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To: summer
Two years ago, Tamim-Muhammad, a native of Morocco, removed her headdress for the ID photo, but her husband said she did it only because she spoke no English and was unsure of her legal rights.

If she speaks no English, I must assume she reads none, either. How will she read street signs and such? How will she know what the "Bridge Out Ahead" sign is about?

Oh, wait, I forgot. She doesn't have to. She'll wait until she drives off the non-bridge; then she and her husband will sue.
218 posted on 01/30/2002 5:56:11 AM PST by Xenalyte
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To: summer
Uh, don't most muslim nations FORBID women to operate motor vehicles?
219 posted on 01/30/2002 5:58:05 AM PST by Unbeliever
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To: summer; GeronL; Discostu; Hans Moleman
I'm in too! When do we celebrate the Feast of Maximum Occupancy?
220 posted on 01/30/2002 5:58:11 AM PST by Xenalyte
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