Posted on 01/29/2002 11:01:29 PM PST by summer
Regarding what you said: "Read your drivers license carefully", Florida Statutes are on line for others to view:
Will you express similar sentiments when IDs with biometric data or perhaps DNA samples become the next mndate for the sake of "security".
C'mon now, apply the rest of what you learned in comm theory class. When you've got a stable and discrete nick, your identity is also the content of posts. That's why you were being asked about it, bashful.
In Israel, many Arab owners would sell to Jews allowing them to legally own the land, but the Moslem extremists would kill them for letting to land go to Israel. I'm sure that the extremists would hold a simular view here in America if they could get away with it.
"The department shall, upon receipt of the required fee, issue to each qualified applicant for an original driver's license a color photographic or digital imaged driver's license bearing a fullface photograph or digital image of the licensee"
If you knew what the words Registration, Application and Submission REALLY meant, every time you put your signature to documents with those words, you would feel violated.
Just what Is a MOTOR VEHICLE?
Here it gets a little tricky. Put on your thinking caps. The Motor Vehicle Act defines a Motor Vehicle. Again, if you have Submitted an Application, you have agreed to this definition. They word it however so that it becomes a hook. When you read it without knowledge and logic, it is easy to assume it means something it does not.
From the Act:
"motor vehicle" means a vehicle, not run on rails, that is designed to be self propelled or propelled by electric power obtained from overhead trolley wires;
Read that carefully. Know what it definitely doesnt say? It doesnt say: a vehicle, not run on rails, that is designed to be self propelled or propelled by electric power obtained from overhead trolley wires means "motor vehicle";
Yet, when you purchase an automobile, you read their definition of Motor Vehicle and assume it means the opposite of what it is saying. They will even point this section out in court and if you accept it, it stands. The judge might know what I am about to show you, but if you dont raise it, no one will.
Just because All As are Bs doesnt mean, All Bs are As. Look at this diagram. (not shown sorry Imagine one box inside another, label the smaller one 'A', the larger one 'B') Its easy to see the statement All As are Bs is clearly true. The reverse however, is clearly not true. Their definitions in their Acts are not clear and complete. Not only that, but sometimes they mean something which is totally incongruous with reality.
Look at their definition of accident.
"accident" includes an intentional collision;
Not only is the definition neither full nor complete, it is drastically expanded to include that which is opposite of accident. They cannot claim that one definition is full and complete when others clearly are not. Either they all are, or none are. This is also a perfect example of how they change definitions.
Now if the definitions are neither full nor complete, then there are other attributes, which further define a Motor Vehicle. Want to guess what it is? What if it was YOU SUBMITTING AN APPLICATION FOR REGISTRATION, which created the necessary other attributes, which led to the status of Motor Vehicle being conferred? You BEGGED them to consider your property to be a Motor Vehicle. And you know what they get you to do then? You will have to send them THE Manufacturers Certificate Of Origin. Guess what you need to prove ownership of your private property? You need the Bill of Sale and the MCO. What do you have after Registration? You get a Certificate of Ownership and you keep the Bill of Sale. They have the MCO.
Your Certificate of Ownership certifies that BOTH of you own that property. You do see their name on it, dont you? And they have the MCO, which you BEGGED them to accept. Under the Law, they now have the Right to decide who can Drive that Motor Vehicle and how. After all, its partly theirs because you begged them to accept it.
Registration
From the Act:
Registration and license
3 (1) Except as otherwise provided in this Act, the owner of a motor vehicle or trailer must, before it is used or operated on a highway,
(a) register the motor vehicle or trailer with the Insurance Corporation of British Columbia,
This part, along with how they word the definition, finishes how they hook you. They use the word must. Better sit down for this. MUST MEANS MAY! It is an invitation and is not used in the imperative sense. It is a directive. It creates NO obligation on your part; it does however create one on theirs. Before they can claim that something is a Motor Vehicle, the owner must register. That is the missing attribute, which defines a Motor Vehicle. The owner MUST engage in a voluntary act of Application and Submission. Once that has been achieved, the claim of Motor Vehicle Status can be lawfully made.
All the power ICBC has over you is a direct result of your voluntary actions. Before you sought your Drivers License, did you ask them about your Common Law Right to Travel? Why not and whose fault is that? Its not too late. Ask them now. Ask yourself, If what they are doing is so good, why do they use so much deception to get you to buy it?
From the Book: Registration, Application & Submission means Dropem, Bend Over a Dont Expect Lube; How the government REALLY gains Power.' By Robert Arthur
Although this is written about British Columbia, I am willing to bet the same deception is used just about every where. Anyone here think the goobermint doesn't use deception? Anyone?
Peace, eh?
Florida law says license applicants shall be issued "a color photographic or digital imaged drivers license bearing a full-face photograph."
ACLU lawyer Howard Marks argues that the law is vague. "I don't think the state statutes mandate a photograph," he said.
Good God, what part of FULL FACE is vague?
Even better, "full-face photograph" is "vague". Ha! This guy sounds like an interviewee from the Onion.
This really has nothing to do with security. It has to do with whether someone should be given the privilege to operate a motor vehicle on Florida roads after refusing to adhere to state laws regarding the license to do this. The need for a photo on the DL is to allow a law enforcement officer to confirm that the person on the license and the person operating the vehicle is the same.
In the sixties these people would have been faux-hippies (in it for the image). In the seventies they would have been into EST or TM or some other path to self-awareness.
This is not a true issue of religious belief, it is just a couple of fringe dwellers trying to draw the spotlight to themselves.
Welcome to the Age of Clinton.
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