Citizen of the Year Denied OK to Carry Gun

The Washington Times ^ | January 29, 2002 | Margie Hyslop

[blau993]

Citizen of the year' denied OK to carry gun By Margie Hyslop THE WASHINGTON TIMES Donald G. Arnold is a Vietnam veteran and president of his neighborhood association. He was named a "citizen of the year" by Maryland in 2000 for his work with police in southeast Baltimore to stop drug dealers and make the city safer.

[EBUCK]

Hmmmm, can you get a year for traffic tix? Parking tix? This could be an easy way to get de facto gun control in place. Just raise the limit on a bunch of minor infractions to a year and a day and viola! millions of instant criminal felon gun owners, thoughfully databased courtesy of various gun control laws.
Hell yah you can!! In my state (Oregon) you can get up to 3 years for a DUI, 1 year for Driving while suspended (3rd offense can be considered a Felony) and even 1 year for reckless driving (25+ over the speed limit)!!!! I can't wait for these laws to come here, I'll finaly feel safe walking the streets!

EBUCK

[Ajnin]

Every cop I know with domestic assault in their past has been fired or has resigned. So, I know cops are held accountable, to what degree I'm not sure. I've never heard of any high ranking cops get fired. It has only been the ones on the line.

[Ajnin]

I previously stated that cops are fired, this is actually not completely true. There are any number circumstances that can arise to allow a cop to remain employed. In such a case, a cop could be employed as a dispatcher or any other job where the cop is not carrying a gun. The cop must be disarmed and Unions have no recourse once there is a conviction.

[EBUCK]

Are they disarming any previously convicted Feds that are entering the State?

EBUCK

[Navy Patriot]

I really would be surprised if they were fired.

In Oakland Ca. a couple years ago, a 15 year old boy got ahold of his dad's gun, and accidentally shot his younger brother (not fatal). This was after a Ca. law was in effect that made it a felony to allow a child access to a gun. A number of citizens had been prosecuted and convicted at the time of this incident. This was not prosecuted, the boys's parents were both cops and the gun was dad's service weapon.

This is one way to control who is a felon. In this instance the state and not the Constitution will forever control these two cops if not more.

[freefly]

Coming soon to a state near you...

[freefly]

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[freefly]

BTW, thank you for the re-post, otherwise I never would have seen it.
Sorry that you got your balls whacked because of it...

[tracer]

The response to this brand of tyrrany is simple. A background check should be performed on every LEO or other "government official" you know or know of who enjoys the concealed carry rights denied to the peasantry. Then sue to have the law equally enforced against all whose backgrounds have positive "hits" for similar infractions in the recent or very distant past.

The result would be having fewer hypocritical storm troopers on the public payroll and more "VIPs" running around "gun-naked."

This is so easy and potentially so much fun, I think I'll get started today...

[taxtruth]

The American people are lambs that are being led to the slaughter slowly.America is long gone because we have allowed what the founders "hated" to consume us.Democracy will ruin us all as the founders knew.RSP America.

[Pablo64]

"State police said they soon will begin searching databases for gun owners with disqualifying offenses on their records."

Instead of doing things like,...oh, I don't know.....catching REAL criminals!!!

Sorry to yell like that. I feel better now (just a little).

[blau993]

Coming soon to a state near you...

I live in Maryland. It is unfortunately already in a state near me.

[Ajnin]

As far as LEO's go, background investigations are mandatory. Many agencies require a background investigations every so many years. For instance the Border Patrol requires a BI every five years. BI's are also manadatory upon becoming a GS-11 or supervisor.

[Ajnin]

I'm not sure I understand your question. If a Fed is convicted of misdameanor assault he has to give his service weapon to his agency. Of course, they're not allowed to possess personal firearms either. If they don't give up their weapons they are in violation of the law. I have yet to see any indication that the Feds would recieve any type of "professional courtesy" from state LEO's regarding domestic violence.

[7thson]

"Trust me. In a lot of these cases, I'm sympathetic, but I'm governed by the law," said Maj. Thomas Bowers, chief of detectives for Maryland State Police.

Where have we heard this before? "I was only following orders." "It's the law." Well, it was the law to prevent blacks from voting in certain parts of this country some years back. When are people going to wake up and demand their rights back?

[tracer]

Agreed, but I wasn't referring to Feds. I doubt that checks of in-state LEOs are as stringent as those they openly intend to do on current and future gun owners. And such background investigations are usualy pro-forma, cookie cuttter-type things. In any event, there remains the issue of the backgrounds of elected officials and other VIPs who often enjoy and exercise the rights of CCW that are denied to the peasantry (including yours truly) of the People's Republik of Merryland.

BTW, did you know that some Baltimore-area state legislators recently attempted to pass legislation that would have created an automatic class of shall-issue CCW holders -- namely, themselves?? This received virtually no ink, but some of us who have inquiring minds also care enough to find these and other things out via open sources or otherwise.

As for me, I undergo frequent background checks for various reasons and have had no more than three moving violations in my 50+ years. So Big Deal. But, I guess that, oddly enough, "they" just hate guys like me...

[Ajnin]

You're right about the forms. I'm not sure how strict BI's are for gun ownership, however it seems to me that BI's for LEO's are larger in scope which would create a lot of cracks to fall through. BI's for firearm owners in my opinion are easier to manage, which would enable the gun grabbers to accrue "positive" results.

[taxtruth]

Most people just don't demand the government follow the supreme "LAW" of the land,the US Constitution.The people aren't breaking the law the government is.When it comes to a life and death decision,I could care less about mans law.Gods law supercedes all.Amen!