[ArGee]

Makes a lot of sense. Seems like it would only work for those who admit it is a problem. How would you get them to admit it was a problem? Where is the incentive? What do they do to encourage alcoholics to acknowledge they have a problem?

Often alcoholics need to reach a bottom. If they are not enabled they reach it sooner. However, that really can hurt them and some of the people they love. A recent approach is called "intervention" which is a very disciplined opportunity for the ones they love to let them know how much damage they're causing and hope they see the light before they hit bottom.

Hitting bottom includes such things as being fired, losing your friends, losing your family, etc.

Shalom.

[Khepera]

Well they have worked it out so that they don't have to worry about being fired (discrimination lawsuits) and they call anybody opposed to their lifestyle Nazis. They may lose a few straight friends they had no need for in the first place. They can convince their families to go along for the most part by blaming the (false but seemingly plausible) genetics claim or threatening. Then after that, so what if they lose 1 or 2 relatives support. So short of prosecution there is not much incentive unless they get AIDS and then, so what because once you have it then you don’t need to worry about getting it any more. Even public drunks are arrested and fined or jailed for a short period of time. Other sexual perverts are arrested and jailed all the time. What makes the sodomites any different?

[Spallenzani]

Often alcoholics need to reach a bottom. If they are not enabled they reach it sooner. However, that really can hurt them and some of the people they love. A recent approach is called "intervention" which is a very disciplined opportunity for the ones they love to let them know how much damage they're causing and hope they see the light before they hit bottom. Hitting bottom includes such things as being fired, losing your friends, losing your family, etc.

So how do we know when homosexuals have "reached a bottom"?

Sorry, I'll go back to lurking now.