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To: OWK
Fine. Well is you were not talking about non-copulatory acts then, let us talk about them now.

Do you accept and agree that prolonged kissing in public under the loving circumstances that I described is in fact different. As such does it or does it not justify censorship of such displays (by homosexuals) in public?

I do not wish to think of you as evasive hence I hope you will declare where you stand on this issue.

254 posted on 01/29/2002 11:33:01 AM PST by US admirer
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To: US admirer
Do you accept and agree that prolonged kissing in public under the loving circumstances that I described is in fact different.

As such does it or does it not justify censorship of such displays (by homosexuals) in public?

Of course it is different. It is also abnormal. But does difference and abnormality constitute a morally justifiable reason to apply government restraining force at gunpoint? That is the question.

And I think the answer is somewhat dependent on the question of definitions of public and private. I think all too often the two are confused. Is a department store public? I would argue not. It is the property of the business owner, and he (not state) is therefore entitled to establish the terms and conditions for access to his property.

If he wishes to restrict either homosexual, or heterosexual (or all) displays of affection on his property, he is morally entitled to do so. Likewise if he wishes to allow them, he may do that also. Those unstaisfied with the terms of access, are free to choose not to enter. But ultimately, it is his property, and he (and not state, or the majority of neighbors) is entitled to establish the terms of access.

Now when you're talking about truly public property (which I as a libertarian oppose as a matter of principle) the public (being the theoretical owner) are entitled to establish the terms and conditions of use. But "the public" (as recognized and manifest in the state) is also bound by the responsibility to recognize all as equal before the law. Hence if the public wishes to prohibit public displays of affection, it must do so indiscriminately.

I do not wish to think of you as evasive hence I hope you will declare where you stand on this issue.

I'm generally not an evasive guy, and will do my best to answer any question put to me in good faith, provided it is asked in good faith. I apologize for my earlier hostility. I did not recognize the intent of your question, and I was a bit exhasperated.

273 posted on 01/29/2002 11:47:22 AM PST by OWK
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