Flight 587: Video May Hold the Key

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[a_witness]

I'm still suspicious of this incident. Shoe bomber #2, maybe?

I was thinking the same thing. Perhaps they are waiting for the Islamic Terrorist to claim responsibility. Cat and mouse ...

[Geezerette]

I was thinking the same thing ... November 12th? What took them so looooong?

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[Mitchell]

Maybe somebody who's more familiar with NTSB investigations than I am can answer a question that this naturally brings up. Why did it take more than 2 months (from Nov. 12 to the week of Jan. 20) for the NTSB to get its first look at this videotape?

If I were doing an investigation, I would collect and examine all the raw data as quickly as possible (before it gets misplaced or damaged, etc.), and then start on the more time-consuming (but less pressing) analysis phase.

[mrustow]

an important new piece of evidence.

Nonsense on stilts. They've had the toll booth videotape since a couple of days after the crash.

Did a Bomb Take Down Flight 587?

[r9etb]

Ah, but to the tinfoiler mind, anyone who speaks spanish is a closet terrorist anyhow.

Tinfoilers are actually quite amusing, until you realize that (gasp!) they're all around us....

[eno_]

My pilot brother said that this plane was flipped over and landed on its tail in a giant windstorm in France a while back. When the tail fell off, due to stress from the flip over, the plane giro's and can rip the wings off, but its been engineered to rip the engines off instead. You can land a plane with one engine, no stabilizer tail but not one wing. He says the engine falling off does cause an explosion also!

There is almost nothing correct about this, starting with the fact Airbuses are NOT designed to have the engines break away in a gear-up landing. And I've never been served a giro on an airplane (though I've never flown from Queens to Greece, which, I suppose, would raise the odds of that happening).

[eno_]

Tinfoilers are actually quite amusing, until you realize that (gasp!) they're all around us....

We're the same people who think a very expensive trial resulted in a bad verdict (O.J).

The same people who think all those PhDs can be wrong about global warming.

The same people who think Gore almost stole the election using illegal voters.

Yup, bogus trials, bad science, and election fraud are NOT "conspiracy theory" (even though the same media feeds us the same crap about these things) and when an inconvenient plane blows up, it IS tinfoil hattish to suggest that keeping it quiet might be to the benefit of recently bailed-out airlines and nacent homeland security efforts that cannot keep baggage bombs and suicide bombers off of airplanes. And, of course, it is PURE CHANCE this happens almost within sight of GWB standing at Ground Zero a couple weeks after Osama threatens airliners and rips into the UN (the UNGA was in town, too).

Yup, unreliable tinfoil. Especially compared with the track record of those highly reliable "cautious" people: bad tail, old engine, birds, cheese, wake, and now pilot error. Oh ya. We'll get it wrong for sure.

[Dane]

Tinfoilers are actually quite amusing, until you realize that (gasp!) they're all around us....

Yep especially on FR. Still no answer in this thread to my reply #10.

[Born to Conserve]

The problem with tin-foilers it they spoil the reception. I can't hear a thing the voices are telling me!

[SubMareener]

You will note that the three of us all posted within a six minute window. That is well within the time it takes for someone to compose a post, depending on the number of previews. So they are essentially one post.

Now, Asmodeus obviously did not do a search for 587 before he/she posted. So, he/she should consider her/himself on report. ;-)

[lelio]

any good reporter(who speaks sapnish since most of the victims were Dominican) can go over the flight manifest
Have they released the manifest? I must of missed that. Course a "Richard Reid" would look normal too.

[archy]

Close. J for John, logajan for Logajan -- Rumanian.

Oh, heck, that's just the old country. I was afraid you were one of those Canadians or Mes'kins or sum'thin subversive like that. Nothing to see here, go about your duties, citizen....

-archy-/-

[verity]

And here at ConspiracyRepublic we have an egg!

[cajungirl]

I never saw a passenger list. But then again, John Walker wouldn't have tipped me off. I wonder about other Americans who are sympathetic to the Al Queda. And other nationalities. This plane was full of Hispanics,,anyone know of any Hispanic terrorist sympathizers.

[xhrist]

"Real thinkers want FACTS. Sure, facts aren't always available, but at that point the true thinker says, gee, I just don't know enough to draw a conclusion. Lazy minds take the same situation and say, see -- ya can't prove me wrong, my nutty theory must be right until proven otherwise."

WRONG, real thinkers have opinions. We dont just default to believe what the gov/media tells us...
They had 10 different explanations within 3 days of the crash (including the bird impact), yet never considered terrorism. What type of thinking is that? What FACT do they have to know it's NOT terrorism..

As a "true" thinker, you are telling me that terrorism doesn't even seem like a remote possibility as a cause of this crash??

[Bowana]

Now, Asmodeus obviously did not do a search for 587 before he/she posted. So, he/she should consider her/himself on report. ;-)

I have no problem with a repeated post. I have done it, as have many of us. I thought moderators would move the repeat posts off the sidebar leaving the one that was oldest or had the most replies.

Guess I'm a little sensitive having had a few posts removed.

Sour Grapes

Interesting Story anyway and thanks to ALL for posting it!

[TaRaRaBoomDeAyGoreLostToday!]

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[GOPJ]

Good point:

puh-leez. They had 10 different explanations within 3 days of the crash (including the bird impact), but the only one that wasn't open for discussion was the most probable in light of 9/11--terrorism.

[FreeReign]

yet never considered terrorism.

I see no reason to think that they have never considered terrorism. What do you base your claim on?