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To: Ol' Sparky
How many times have you posted this Ross quote? In this case, you post it as a reply to my 457 in which I analyze and expose your dishonest tap dance. A reply it is, but not an answer.
469 posted on 02/03/2002 10:00:35 AM PST by VadeRetro
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To: VadeRetro
Until in sinks in your thick skull. You DO deny the Second Law applies to the planet. You claim the earth is decreasing in entropy and that life forms are not becoming more disorderly. That is a denial of the Second Law in regard to the planet.

The hurricane example is silly. The sun does not decrease entropy, it increases entropy.

Being a generalization of experience, the second law could only be invalidated by an actual engine. In other words, the question,. "Can the second law of thermodynamics be circumvented?" is not well-worded and could be answered only if the model incorporated every feature of the real world. But an answer can readily be given to the question, "Has the second law of thermodynamics been circumvented?" Not yet. Frank A. Grew, "On the Second Law of Thermodynamics," American Laboratory (October 1982), p.88.

Henry Morris:

Of course, the fact that no exception to the law of increasing entropy has ever been observed does not prove such a thing never happened. It simply shows that such ideas are outside the scope of science. Evolutionists are free to believe in such "singularities" by faith, if they wish (e.g., the inflationary universe, hopeful monsters, etc.) but they have no right impose them on unsuspecting young minds in the name of science.

In the first place, the entropy principle applies at least as much to open systems as to closed systems. In an isolated real system, shut off from external energy, the entropy (or disorganization) will always increase. In an open system (such as the earth receiving an influx of heat energy from the sun), the entropy always tends to increase, and, as a matter of fact, will usually increase more rapidly than if the system remained closed!

471 posted on 02/03/2002 10:07:30 AM PST by Ol' Sparky
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