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To: ArGee
Homosexual behavior is inconsistent with this morality and human nature.

I know that I'm asking for it here, but I thought that most Christians believed that human nature was to sin...wouldn't that make homosexuality perfectly consistent with human nature?

(Personally I think that irresponsible attitudes and actions toward sex -- which homosexuals do in greater percentages than heterosexuals -- is the reason for the spread of STDs)
172 posted on 01/23/2002 11:14:56 AM PST by Dimensio
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To: Dimensio
I know that I'm asking for it here, but I thought that most Christians believed that human nature was to sin...wouldn't that make homosexuality perfectly consistent with human nature?

The Hebrew word for 'iniquity' is 'avon' (not pronounced like the makeup, but ah VONE). It means to twist or to bend.

The iniquity in man means that he is a bit twisted in his makeup. The interaction between G-d and man has a twofold purpose:

  1. Since man is integrally connected with creation, the twisting of man lead to a twisting of creation. G-d had to undo that twisting. G-d had to make a way to redeem (purchase back) creation from the iniquity man introduced.
  2. Teach man how to live as man was intended to live before he became twisted. G-d gives us His wisdom so we will know what we no longer know naturally, what it means to be fully human.
Now, to your question. We are born with original sin, that is, twisted. That does not change the definition of what it means to be a man. That just makes it a little harder for us to live like men.

Note, in the above, man/men are generic terms for male and female. There is no intention to elevate nor denegrate women.

Shalom.

180 posted on 01/23/2002 11:29:38 AM PST by ArGee
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To: Dimensio
I know that I'm asking for it here, but I thought that most Christians believed that human nature was to sin...wouldn't that make homosexuality perfectly consistent with human nature?

It is not human nature to sin. The tendency to sin is the result of the absence of grace at conception, and the consequent damage to human nature brought about by the absence of grace. "Human nature" considered as "what is usual" or "what is common" obviously includes the tendency to sin. But "human nature" considered as a source of values, is what God has created, properly developed and properly ordered to the proper ends of the human person and his many faculties. Since homosexual desire is the desire to do something that is destructive, it is obviously contrary to the good of human nature.

181 posted on 01/23/2002 11:31:05 AM PST by Arthur McGowan
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