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Ashcroft Faces Quandary Over Clinton Scandal Secrets
NewsMax ^ | January 22, 2002 | Carl Limbacher and NewsMax.com Staff

Posted on 01/22/2002 2:36:58 AM PST by MeekOneGOP

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To: William Tell
Just Who Is Charles F. C. Ruff ? ~ please post what you know about Clinton's 5th White House Counsel

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The White House Plays Ruff ~ Just Who Is Charles F. C. Ruff ?

BUMP !

.........In the past, however, Ruff was more talkative. In 1977, as he was closing the office, Ruff spoke at length to Washington Post reporter Bob Woodward. Among the many topics discussed was Ruff's fear that Congress would re-open the Watergate inquiry at some point in the future. Should that happen, Ruff continued, investigators might question the actions of the original Watergate prosecutors--including Ruff. How would he respond? As Woodward listened, Ruff outlined a strategy that would prove enormously useful to the Clinton White House two decades later:

"I'd say, 'Gee, I just don't remember what happened back then,' and they won't be able to indict me for perjury and that, maybe that's the principal thing that I've learned in four years....I just intend to rely on that failure of memory." ............Clinton's 5th White House Counsel Charles F. C. Ruff

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Did someone say the name "Chuck" Ruff ?

Just before Clinton 'took the 5th' White House Counsel, Charles 'Watergate & Tobacco' Ruff was Teamster Boss Ron Carey's "secret counsel"

If Ruff is involved ~ That says it all.

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According to the New York Times, White House counsel Beth Nolan's statement that reveals her predecessor, Charles Ruff, has been aware of the computer problem for years.

"As Mr. Ruff understood the technical problem at the time, he did not think that the error had an effect on previous searches or that it might affect future searches of e-mail records," states Nolan, "As a result, Ruff had no reason to believe there was any need to notify investigative bodies of this error."

The White House Plays Ruff June 1997

Dick Morris Says Clinton's Lawyer, Ch arles Ruff, Is a Liar

Clinton Defense ~ Charles F. C. Ruff

Ruff lied to the Hoekstra Committee about 'passing through' over $300K to Jack Pallidino Then they played a shell game with his work product

TIME ~ 12.21.98 State Of The Union Hoffa Takes Charge. First Target: Democrats By ED BARNES/NEW YORK:

...........As part of their case, Hoffa's lawyers plan to detail the "work product" of CHARLES RUFF, now White House counsel, who briefly worked for the Teamsters under Carey. In 1993 Ruff allegedly paid Jack Palladino, a San Francisco private detective, more than $150,000 out of Teamsters funds for unspecified services. A House subcommittee that had tried to investigate the payment was stymied by legal objections from Ruff and Carey. There have been allegations that the money was for work Palladino did for Clinton in his 1992 campaign to keep stories of sexual misconduct from becoming public, or that the money was used to suppress Teamster dissidents. Ruff has denied the allegations as "false and nonsensical." (Calls to McAuliffe's attorney were not returned.) The proposed lawsuit will contend that government monitors failed to do their job overseeing the Carey administration and, "as a result," says a source close to the suit, "more than $20 million of taxpayer money was wasted on one election and the union went bankrupt." If Hoffa is successful, the Teamsters may be in for a windfall. Under racketeering statutes, successful plaintiffs can recover as much as triple the damages...

From last Summer's edition of the RNC's magazine RISING TIDE here is:

Laboring Against America
by Michael Moroney:

Sen. John McClellan called it "crime without punishment." Thirty years later, Reagan's Organized Crime Commission wanted Justice to use civil racketeering laws to clean up the national Teamsters unions. George Bush's Justice Department launched the case. But the Clinton administration sees anti-labor rackets laws as a political profit center, much like selling the nation's nuclear secrets.

In 1978 wannabe Stephen Brill, Clinton's ultimate supporter, wrote a book that painted Teamster Ron Carey as a family man with an extremely modest income. Brill did not mention that Carey 's Queens local union was controlled by the mob. Boosted by Brill and a far-left reputed rank-and-file reform group, Carey emerged in 1992 as a national Teamsters reform leader.

By 1993, Carey 's secret life had caught up with him. Stories in The New York Times, TIME magazine and Business Week began to unravel Carey's facade of reform. He tried to end court supervision over the union; appointed a mob associate to run a corrupt airfreight local in New York; the former boss of New York 's Lucchese crime family identified him as a mob figure; and in early 1994 a treasure trove of real estate Carey owned with his close friend and female business partner in the Florida Keys was revealed. With the press hounds on his heels, Carey arranged to meet union lawyer Harold Ickes, then Bill Clinton's New York campaign manager. Millions of Teamsters PAC money and support started flowing to Clinton. Carey 's new allies on the left and the Clinton Justice Department soon rallied to his defense. Expecting to get away with it, Carey 's minions then embezzled approximately $885,000 of union funds to get him re-elected, and as Carey was about to fall on corruption charges, he pulled off the famous UPS strike-the ultimate Wag the Dog trick.

Now that he has been expelled from the union, and several of his campaign aides pled guilty, Carey 's friends in the AFL-CIO, AFSCME and the Service Employees International Union (SEIU) who escaped accountability continue to funnel union money to the Democratic Party.

Recently obtained documents shed more light on the steps taken by the Carey regime to protect their ersatz champion and to deflect scrutiny while the AFL-CIO pumped money into the Democratic Party.

Carey 's left-wing staff and supporters defined every revelation about his past as an activity of James P. Hoffa, and particularly two characters in Hoffa 's sphere who had previously been associated with Lyndon La Rouche. This was their "vast right -wing conspiracy" ploy.

Teamsters' lawyer Judy Scott brought in Scott Armstrong as an investigative consultant. Armstrong spoke to far-left lawyer Michael Tigar and Anthony Podesta (brother of now White House Chief of Staff John Podesta), who then went to Charles Ruff. Ruff shielded Carey from government investigators. He presented documents to favorably explain Carey 's finances - although Ruff's own associates observed that there were "glaring soft spots" and that it was unlikely that the explanations, insufficient for Business Week, would survive government scrutiny. (Documents show that both Carey and his girl friend would not disclose records from their joint bank accounts and that they "relied heavily on undocumented representations.") Nevertheless, Ruff's spin worked with politically malleable investigators.

In the "it's a small world category", it's interesting to note that, using union funds, Ruff hired Clinton Arkansas "bimbo eruptions" investigator Jack Palladino to investigate internal union corruption in Chicago. Carey's people also investigated Hoffa and his supporters, including monitoring their garbage and gathering evidence on ex-wives and children.

Millions of Teamsters' dollars were spent to protect Carey. Close to a million dollars of Teamsters' funds were embezzled to get him re-elected before the truth finished him. Ruff became White House counsel and Ickes now runs Hillary Clinton's New York Senate campaign. And millions from the labor movement still flow into the Democratic Party.

This is what Sen. McClellan meant by crime without punishment.

As a former labor rackets investigator with the departments of Justice and Labor, Michael Moroney is credited with exposing Ron Carey 's organized crime association and corrupt background. From 1992 through 1994, Moroney served as a court appointed deputy trustee of the Teamsters' airfreight local at New York's Kennedy and Newark airports.

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Clinton impeachment counsel Ruff dies at 61 - TWT ~ Jerry Seper

Has Ruff Been Cremated Yet?

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81 posted on 01/27/2002 3:09:59 AM PST by Elle Bee
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To: Black Jade
DOJ Under Janet Ashcroft - Has Anything Changed?

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82 posted on 01/27/2002 3:13:15 AM PST by Elle Bee
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To: Elle Bee
Good to see that you are hanging in there and not giving up.
83 posted on 01/27/2002 3:26:05 AM PST by RJCogburn
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To: MeeknMing
Yes, I agree this is a quandry - especially because the dems are looking for ANYTHING to get back on the front page of the paper. Even this would get them front page status - and while it would not be very good news (at least I'm hoping it wouldn't), it would put the dems to advantage during an election cycle.

So, the quandry is - should they expose what they have found out and risk having the dems control the front page (as well as TV time) during an election period, or do they take the heat (from their own party) and keep it hidden until after the election is over. Of course, releasing it could possibly be even better for the repubs - it could even make it a landslide for repubs everywhere. I think this decision will be a very difficult one.

I would just like to see the dems finally get their due when the real evidence against their corrupted party is finally revealed.

84 posted on 01/27/2002 3:31:45 AM PST by CyberAnt
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To: Destructor
Ashcroft would just like the Enron thing to go away. If he opens the pandora's box to go after Clinton he knows that a lot of conservative politicians will also be hurt.
85 posted on 01/27/2002 3:35:41 AM PST by powderhorn
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To: GatĂșn(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
"After watching Bush now since 20 January, I have to conclude Bush is unnaturally frightened of the Clintons. He is scared out of his wits about something or several things."

My take is a bit different. I think that the current administration knows many, many things about the previous administration.........many damning things. The disclosure of such things (we can only guess how bad they are; what we already know is bad enough, we've all thought) could and probably would have profound repercussions in the political establishment, all over Washington, the defense industry, and maybe a fair number of foreign governments.

I believe the filth that occupied the White House for eight years had plenty of time (and zero morals) to compromise this country in unspeakable ways.

IOW, I don't think for a second that Bush is afraid of the Clintons. I do think he fears the impact of divulging all that they and their enablers did to this country. There is a huge difference.

For the record, I truly do not believe that this has a thing to do with his father's administration. That may sound naive, but I just don't think so.

86 posted on 01/27/2002 3:40:28 AM PST by RightOnline
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To: RightOnline
IOW, I don't think for a second that Bush is afraid of the Clintons.

Well, he handled Algore magnificently and easily when the Tree tried to intimidate him physically in one of the debates.

I think that Dubya doesn't want to spend his political capital in a rancorous, divisive, and inconclusive "investigation" into SickWillie's crimes.

87 posted on 01/27/2002 3:55:24 AM PST by Ole Okie
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To: powderhorn
If he opens the pandora's box to go after Clinton he knows that a lot of conservative politicians will also be hurt.

So be it.

88 posted on 01/27/2002 5:18:56 AM PST by RJCogburn
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To: RJCogburn
I agree. Trash on the right smells just as bad as trash on the left...but Ashcroft may find himself unwelcome in conservative circles if he brings grief to too many conservatives.
89 posted on 01/28/2002 6:29:11 AM PST by powderhorn
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To: eeriegeno
bttt
90 posted on 01/28/2002 7:40:46 AM PST by timestax
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To: steve50
"Those are our files now."
92 posted on 01/29/2002 5:31:29 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Ole Okie
re: your post #87
I agree 100%.
No way are the Bushes afraid of Sick Willie and the Dixie mob. If the "evidence" held by Ashcroft and the DOJ is really juicy, it is best held as a fistful of aces up the sleeve at this point. If need be, tidbits can be "leaked" as warnings at opportune times.
The ignorant rabble does not want to revisit the Clinton era, and throwing it back in their faces would only bring on a backlash.
94 posted on 01/29/2002 5:41:48 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: MeeknMing
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95 posted on 01/29/2002 7:18:02 AM PST by timestax
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To: SusanUSA
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96 posted on 01/31/2002 6:41:19 AM PST by timestax
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To: demkicker
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97 posted on 02/11/2002 5:18:44 PM PST by timestax
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To: timestax
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98 posted on 02/11/2002 6:28:18 PM PST by timestax
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To: muggs
bump for the truth to come out!
99 posted on 02/12/2002 8:27:04 PM PST by timestax
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To: timestax
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100 posted on 02/13/2002 7:39:59 PM PST by timestax
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