[anniegetyourgun]

Look, I'm not saying that women aren't complicit and culpable. I'm saying that if we want to see a reduction in abortion, it will depend on men acting responsibly. They will have to stop telling their girlfriends that they won't support a child, stop driving them to the appointment, stop paying for the process. They need to stop living with women and not marrying them and then taking them in to scrape the baby out so they can take the woman back to their apartment to use them again. They'll have to stop performing abortions and enjoying their blood money since most abortionists are men. They'll have to stop teaching abortion since most MD's who are doing so are men. They'll have to stop supporting the so-called right to choose in greater numbers than women do. They'll have to put a value on their seed instead of crowing about their multiple conquests. They'll have to stop being the perps in rape cases.

All I'm saying is that women can't get pregnant on their own. Even if she throws herself at him, there will be no baby if he says no.

[94Revolution]

sorry for the double post

[Dr. Good Will Hunting]

They'll have to put a value on their seed...

Agreed. And society must endorse said value. Enshrine in immutable law every good man's right to protect his pre-born baby, from conception forward. Will you do that, yes or no?

If yes, we can agree on everything else.

If you won't sign on to the legal endorsement of a father's right to protect his very own sons and daughters, then there is nothing else.

So which is it?