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To: verboten
If you don't know that you're a victim, than you're not. Why should the federal government want to harrass individuals that are not involved in serious crimes?If your friend is a terrorist and telephones you from time to time, you will probably be investigated, but so what? Isn't it more important to safeguard our society when we're at war?
17 posted on 01/21/2002 10:20:11 AM PST by stimulate
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To: stimulate
If you don't know that you're a victim, than you're not. Why should the federal government want to harrass individuals that are not involved in serious crimes?If your friend is a terrorist and telephones you from time to time, you will probably be investigated, but so what? Isn't it more important to safeguard our society when we're at war?

Take aspirin, get plenty of rest, and read portions of Solzhenitzyn's Gulag Archipelago three times daily, and you'll likely recover your rational faculties soon.

19 posted on 01/21/2002 10:56:31 AM PST by BenR2
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To: stimulate
Why should the federal government want to harrass individuals that are not involved in serious crimes?

I guess since you're innocent you won't mind if I come over and rifle through you sh*t secretly?

Your trust in the government is mind-bogglingly scary.

Baaaaaa.

22 posted on 01/21/2002 11:45:52 AM PST by Doctor Doom
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To: stimulate
Isn't it more important to safeguard our society when we're at war?

1) We are not at war.

2) Our "society" is threatened far worse when liberty and rights are stomped upon.

23 posted on 01/21/2002 11:47:28 AM PST by Doctor Doom
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To: stimulate
If you don't know that you're a victim, than you're not.

Hogwash. Can I steal from you if you do not notice? Can I rape someone in a coma?

24 posted on 01/21/2002 11:59:54 AM PST by mindprism.com
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To: stimulate
If you don't know that you're a victim, than you're not.

Interesting take. And one that I think explains why the government got into the education business. And what a job it has done.
25 posted on 01/21/2002 12:23:29 PM PST by verboten
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To: stimulate
If you don't know that you're a victim, than you're not. Why should the federal government want to harrass individuals that are not involved in serious crimes?If your friend is a terrorist and telephones you from time to time, you will probably be investigated, but so what? Isn't it more important to safeguard our society when we're at war?

You're either playing devils advocate, never read any of our founding documents or are in second grade and wandered off the Disney site.

39 posted on 01/28/2002 3:35:37 PM PST by AAABEST
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To: stimulate
Isn't it more important to safeguard our society when we're at war?

At the cost of freedom...no. The cure is worse than the disease. I damn well don't want John Edwards or Hillary with this power.

44 posted on 01/28/2002 6:28:24 PM PST by Dan from Michigan
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To: stimulate
If you don't know that you're a victim, than you're not.

Then you may agree with this trash.

"At a time when our entire country is banding together and facing down individualism, the Patriots [football team] set a wonderful example, showing us all what is possible when we work together, believe in each other, and sacrifice for the greater good."

That was part of a Teddy Kennedy statement read into the Congressional Record. Our entire system of government is based on the rights of the individual and we have a United States Senator going on record as saying "banding together and facing down individualism" is a good thing and a goal. The sad part is, no one seems to care. Those of us that do are branded un-American, un-Patriotic or so stupid we do not know it is WAR.

I love this country and I love our system of law & order. I do not see a government conspiracy behind every tree or grassy knoll. But there are those out there who have an agenda. Socialism. The evil (from the socialist point of view) is the individual. They have managed to chip away at our rights over the years by cloaking their agenda in "for the good of us all" and no one is bad, just different.

Listen to you....If you don't know that you're a victim, than you're not. Hook line & sinker. What ever happened to "it is wrong, because it is wrong."

Everyday I think of what kind of world my children & grandchildren will get from us. I do not like what I envision. And it's not "THE Government" that is the problem. It is who we have given the power to, because we are too lazy to step back & look at the big picture.

68 posted on 02/07/2002 8:17:52 AM PST by Protect the Bill of Rights
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