Civil Liberties Groups Challenge USA Patriot Act

CNS News ^ | 21 Jan 2002 | Lawrence Morahan

[goldilucky]

Thank you, Sandy. Very informative stuff here.

[goldilucky]

You're welcome. Yes, it is great that JW is on the ball about this. I heard that document relating to this are being withheld because of Cheney's involvement. Are they protecting him too? This REALLY stinks!

[TEXICAN II]

Un-Patriot Act is tyranical trash & they are watching us.

[goldilucky]

Sounds to me like Cheney can be sued in his individual capacity. If he is involved in this fraudelent criminal activity, he's definitely not to be protected by qualified or absolute immunity with regards to his executive status. Actually, I think JW can hold him in contempt of court for failure to comply with court orders pertaining to releasing of documents. Title 18 U.S.C Sec. 401 and 402 (contempt of court) and Title 18 U.S.C. Sec. 1505, 1510 (obstruction of justice).

[Protect the Bill of Rights]

If you don't know that you're a victim, than you're not.

Then you may agree with this trash.

"At a time when our entire country is banding together and facing down individualism, the Patriots [football team] set a wonderful example, showing us all what is possible when we work together, believe in each other, and sacrifice for the greater good."

That was part of a Teddy Kennedy statement read into the Congressional Record. Our entire system of government is based on the rights of the individual and we have a United States Senator going on record as saying "banding together and facing down individualism" is a good thing and a goal. The sad part is, no one seems to care. Those of us that do are branded un-American, un-Patriotic or so stupid we do not know it is WAR.

I love this country and I love our system of law & order. I do not see a government conspiracy behind every tree or grassy knoll. But there are those out there who have an agenda. Socialism. The evil (from the socialist point of view) is the individual. They have managed to chip away at our rights over the years by cloaking their agenda in "for the good of us all" and no one is bad, just different.

Listen to you....If you don't know that you're a victim, than you're not. Hook line & sinker. What ever happened to "it is wrong, because it is wrong."

Everyday I think of what kind of world my children & grandchildren will get from us. I do not like what I envision. And it's not "THE Government" that is the problem. It is who we have given the power to, because we are too lazy to step back & look at the big picture.

[goldilucky]

Well yes, I believe that JW can. I was watching the Congressional hearings earlier today and only four or five of the Enron executives were present at this hearing. There was no mention of Cheney there. That bothers me.

[goldilucky]

You are correct to note that Congress is just scratching the surface. "

Remember that when Cheney as CEO of Halliburton was bilking the US Export-Import Bank, it was during the Clinton administration. That's also when Halliburton was getting those Pentagon contracts in the Balkans."

I wasn't paying to much attention to that one. Interesting point made here.