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Scripture please? I read that is salvation comes by faith and through faith but never before faith.

Ephesians 2 4 But God, who is rich in mercy, for his great love wherewith he loved us, 5 Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved;) 6 And hath raised us up together, and made us sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus:

I taught a Bible Study class for adults for 15 years and the book of Ephesians was one of the favorite parts of the Bible our class enjoyed studying - because it is a power packed and love-filled letter. I also discovered a little treasure of a Bible Study Book that has become one of my all time favorite such books called:

The Wealth, Walk, and Warfare of the Christian

If there are any lurkers out there who are hungering and thirsting for eternal life - please ignore most of what's on this thread - and get that book and the Bible - book of Ephesians - and sit down night by night with pen and paper - and be ready to be blessed down to your toenails. And the Living Water is there ready to be poured out for the dying - but cannot help those who will not come near to drink it.

Ephesians 2 4 But God, who is rich in mercy, for his great love wherewith he loved us, 5 Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved;) 6 And hath raised us up together, and made us sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus:

Et tu?

Please cite the entire passage, how are we quickened?

For by grace are ye saved through faith...

Rom10:14How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed

For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed. Faith precedes regeneration.

Thank you for citing the verse. Actually, the best texts to give the appearance that regeneration could precede faith are Tit.3:5 and Rev.1:5 since faith does not show up in the passages. The only problem is that washing is not quickening(Eph.2),. The Non-Calvinist would associate washing with Santification, but those are the two best, I believe, in defending your view.