We don't always give verse numbers. But you are a slanderer, friend.
For one thing, we cover a lot of ground fast. For another thing, we can't always remember verse numbers. For another thing, the verses we give without bothering to give chapter-verse citations are verses which you should already know. i.e., shouldn't even need to look up. For another thing, we assume you have a concordance.
So, your insinuation that we are trying to keep you from looking up the verses is false. One has to wonder (a bit) what that makes you.
My point is that gratuitous insults such as yours are typical of reprobates at worst and carnal spiritual brats at best. Which are you?
You are getting ground to powder in this debate. We don't delight to do this to you, but you leave us no choice. There are other souls at stake, even I do not assume that this exercise will do you any good. I want them to notice what kind of spirit you have in slandering us.
It is very instructive, I suspect.
Besides, my conscience is clear. You have already had plenty of calm opportunities to repent, so if you get more and more angry from this point, don't blame us for your obstinacy of Adamic pride masquerading as Christian grace and love for God's Truth. As OP has repeatedly pointed out, you just hate the truth of God's absolute predestination.
(I think our God, the real God, frightens you in a kind of carnal fear-and-loathing. Well, that is the expected reaction to the God of Romans 9, not to mention Matthew 11.)
"Let them remember that when they inquire into predestination they are penetrating the sacred precincts of divine wisdom. If anyone with carefree assurance breaks into this place, he will not succeed in satisfying his curiosity and he will enter a labyrinth from which he can find no exit. For it is not right for man to unrestraindedly to search out things that the Lord has willed be hidden from himself; nor is it right for him to investigate from eternity that sublimest wisdom, which God would have us revere but not understand in order that through this also he should be fill us with wonder. He has set forth by his Word the secrets of his will that he has decided to reveal to us. These he decided to reveal in so far as he foresaw that they would concern us and benefit us"
Don't you extreme Calvinists think you ought to heed this warning that you are delving into matters in which you should avoid, especially when God has not made the positions you take clear in His Holy Word? Let this be a warning to the wise. Can you find fault with what this author has written? If so, where is he wrong?
Hey, you are not suppose to be talking to me!
For one thing, we cover a lot of ground fast. For another thing, we can't always remember verse numbers. For another thing, the verses we give without bothering to give chapter-verse citations are verses which you should already know. i.e., shouldn't even need to look up. For another thing, we assume you have a concordance.
It is a common courtousy to give the reference. I stated that one might excuse once in a while someone forgetting to cite a verse, but this is a consistent habit among you guys.
So, your insinuation that we are trying to keep you from looking up the verses is false. One has to wonder (a bit) what that makes you.
I wonder why you find it so hard to give the verse? I think you are trying to intimate those who do not know their Bible. Since this has gone on for a long time, and you all do it, it gives one something to ponder
My point is that gratuitous insults such as yours are typical of reprobates at worst and carnal spiritual brats at best. Which are you?
It wasn't me who stopped talking to you, but you to me. So who is the childish one.
You are getting ground to powder in this debate. We don't delight to do this to you, but you leave us no choice. There are other souls at stake, even I do not assume that this exercise will do you any good. I want them to notice what kind of spirit you have in slandering us.
I am! Well, what a shock to me! Ofcourse, if you say so, Doc, it must be true
It is very instructive, I suspect.
Oh, it is. I see more evasion and scripture wresting among you guys then anywhere else. It is an education on the nature of Calvinism and what it does to peoples minds and spirits
Besides, my conscience is clear. You have already had plenty of calm opportunities to repent, so if you get more and more angry from this point, don't blame us for your obstinacy of Adamic pride masquerading as Christian grace and love for God's Truth. As OP has repeatedly pointed out, you just hate the truth of God's absolute predestination.
You know Doc, I really missed you. They should pay you to post on free republic. I am laughing even as I write. What I do hate is the satanic lie known as TULIP. But, hey that's me, what do I know right?
(I think our God, the real God, frightens you in a kind of carnal fear-and-loathing. Well, that is the expected reaction to the God of Romans 9, not to mention Matthew 11.)
Matthew 11-what does that have do with a born again washed in the Blood child of God? Mixing up your Dispensations again.
Don't be a stranger Doc, you always give my spirits a lift!