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To: OrthodoxPresbyterian
The Lord says that their blood will be on our hands if we do not Warn them, because it is our duty to warn them. If we Warn them, and God has not seen fit to predestine them to enlightenment, then at least *we* have done our duty. But if we do not Warn them, they still will remain unsaved -- but in that case, it is not because God saw fit to harden their hearts, but rather because we did not do our duty!!

Are you suggesting that the will of God in predestining the salvation of any man can be frustrated by the failure of a particular believer or clergy to preach the Gospel?

If so, then man is sovereign after all. Not sovereign in his own salvation, but sovereign over the salvation of others. Can the salvation of any man actually be the "work" of another?

I hope I have somehow misunderstood you here. I always liked your estensive Preach To Obey posts before, in part because they are just as applicable for Arminians as they do for Calvinists. Of course, the Arminians deny this so it does them no good.

How can God have actually predestined anyone when His foreknowledge shows Him that His followers would fail Him? Can God be omniportent in salvation if He can be so easily frustrated by the weakness of human vessels?
757 posted on 01/23/2002 3:50:49 PM PST by George W. Bush
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To: George W. Bush
Are you suggesting that the will of God in predestining the salvation of any man can be frustrated by the failure of a particular believer or clergy to preach the Gospel?

Heavens, no. If God has not predestined to regenerate a sinner, then you could preach the Gospel to him all day and he will never respond to it.

But if you do not preach, you have denied him even the opportunity to accept or reject the Gospel. Thus, "his blood be on thy hands", for though he would never have taken the offered opportunity (being unregenerate), *you* did not even offer him the opportunity at all, as was your duty!! Hope that is clearer.

I hope I have somehow misunderstood you here.

I think you have. I speak not of some class of persons who would be saved if only they were preached the Gospel, but rather of Preachers who "share their guilt" in an ethical sense, for never having bothered to offer them the opportunity for salvation in the first place. They would reject, sure, but the Preacher would at least have done his duty.

759 posted on 01/23/2002 3:57:25 PM PST by OrthodoxPresbyterian
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