My quote from Piper was a rebuttal to your earlier contention that Calvinists are somehow hung up on God's glory, and thus miss His love. It would be much less cryptic if you took time to read Desiring God.
As evidenced by your 572 (and many other posts) you deny us the charity of understanding our position. God's happiness is foremost in our minds, and supercedes our own happiness, something that you would easily recognize if you weren't determined to dismiss us out-of-hand. You continue to tear down the straw men of your own construction, and I get the impression that you refuse to grant us the basic Christian charity of considering that we (and our host of spiritual forefathers) are actually Bible believing Christians.
Actually, Jerry, if you will permit me the presumption of correcting your post:
God's happiness is foremost in our minds, and we are learning that our greatest happiness is in His happiness and the passionate, hedonistic pursuit of that which is His great pursuit, namely His Glory; something that you would easily recognize if you weren't determined to dismiss us out-of-hand.That is, if you will permit me the presumption!
What bad spirit? That post was not even directed to me! I came across it by accident. So do not give me the line that it was meant for my edification.
My quote from Piper was a rebuttal to your earlier contention that Calvinists are somehow hung up on God's glory, and thus miss His love. It would be much less cryptic if you took time to read Desiring God.
Did you say that it was for? That is what I mean about being 'cryptic'.
As evidenced by your 572 (and many other posts) you deny us the charity of understanding our position.
Same old 'you do not understand us' line. What bugs you about me is that I do understand your positions
God's happiness is foremost in our minds, and supercedes our own happiness, something that you would easily recognize if you weren't determined to dismiss us out-of-hand. You continue to tear down the straw men of your own construction, and I get the impression that you refuse to grant us the basic Christian charity of considering that we (and our host of spiritual forefathers) are actually Bible believing Christians.
Gee, now you sound like Doc. How many times has any Calvinist ever used the words Love or Happiness? The words that you are hung up are Sovereignty and Glory. I bring up those other words to let you know that God is also a God of Love and Mercy, something that Calvinists ignore when they talk about unconditional election. As for the Bible Believeing Christians, I will grant that you are Christians, but your use of Scripture to fit into your TULIP shows that you do not believe the Bible you use it