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To: PleaseNoMore
No, not in the sense that he "predestined" some to be saved and some to be damned. He clearly states in His word that He desires ALL to be saved. He has said or done nothing contrary to that desire. God being all knowing, did know what would happen in the course of man's existence. I do not doubt that. However, man has been given the choice of whether to accept Him or not. I believe that your responses are bordering on semantics.

I believe it is Christ's desire for all to be saved..His blood is sufficient for the sins of the world.But only those that the Father sends will come

John 6
63 It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.
64 But there are some of you that believe not. For Jesus knew from the beginning who they were that believed not, and who should betray him.
65 And he said, Therefore said I unto you, that no man can come unto me, except it were given unto him of my Father.
66 From that time many of his disciples went back, and walked no more with him.

Notice that they left after hearing this..did you ever wonder why?

I do not believe that the old time Calvinists on FR would disagree with you that repentance is a choice..the question would be why they made that choice? Why do some repent and some not? Why did those men walk away from Jesus ??Why did some like Stephan die for His name?

Why do some knock at the door and others not?

In our human pride we discount the effect of the drawing power of the Grace of God and claim all that glory for ourselves..

496 posted on 01/22/2002 12:23:10 PM PST by RnMomof7
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To: RnMomof7
Why do some knock at the door and others not?

Isn't it Christ who is knocking at the door, and isn't each persons decision whether to open it so Christ can come into his life? If it is Christ who knocks on the door, just who makes the decision; the knocker (Christ) or the person who can either open the door or keep it closed? It would seem that the pre-destination position would be that there is no reason for Christ to knock if he is going to enter regardless of the response to His "knocking on the door".

506 posted on 01/22/2002 1:39:54 PM PST by connectthedots
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