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To: Dr. Eckleburg
"Jesus said unto him, If thou canst believe, all things are possible to him that believeth." -- Mark 9:23

And if we can believe, it is only through the gift of God's grace upon the fallen sinner.

Has anybody who claims that their faith/belief precedes salvation/regeneration bothered to explain how they pulled off this stunt despite Jeremiah 9:17 and Proverbs 28:26?

It seems they only have three verses that they like to trot out (and always out of context - must be a requirement) Joshua 24:15 (...choose you this day...), John 3:16 (...whosoever believes...) and 2 Peter 3:9 ("..not wanting any to perish...") and then abandon out there undefended, as if just merely uttering these verses somehow silence the balance of Scripture that teaches man's inability.

1,831 posted on 01/23/2005 7:12:35 PM PST by Reuben Hick
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To: Reuben Hick
We have tried countless times to learn why they think someone "opens the door" to Christ while another ignores His futile knocking.

We've asked if one guy is smarter, more pious, richer, more intuitive, more clever, prettier, older, younger, more generous, more receptive, more compassionate than the other guy.

Sometimes they come back with "prevenient grace," but this concoction is found nowhere in Scripture. And when asked, they admit that even though all men supposedly receive "prevenient grace," it is still not enough to entice them to faith, if their own free will chooses to refuse God's offer.

It's a mystery, alright.

1,832 posted on 01/24/2005 12:39:28 AM PST by Dr. Eckleburg (There are very few shades of gray.)
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