Your post is so full of errors, false accusations, misattributions, and misinterpretations, that I can hardly find a true statement to work with.
If you so choose, you will continue to rave on, but I will say in advance: You are sadly and grossly misinformed. You are not telling the truth about my faith, or my motives, or hardly anything.
As I pointed out yesterday (#1772), I no longer have any basis to hope to have a rational discussion with you.
In other words he does not have an answer..That is where all the Christians have gone.
Jesus gave His message and them said "Let him that has ears hear" and He moved on..Shake the dust from your shoes brother..you have NO common ground with WM ..He denies the book you rely on .
Instead, Smith first claimed that a white salamander appeared to him in a fire, and told him where the gold plates were (it was believed then that they lived in fires and were spirits) -- so did Cellini --but the church changed it into an angel to be more respectable. He also claimed to have the original Ummin and Thummin, but these are "peep" stones, used to find treasure again. I guess they are like the magic 8 ball thing. We know what the Lord Himself has to say about necromancers who use peeping spirits.
WM needs our prayers and our understanding. Let's resolve to pray for him.
Actually, in my years of discourse with a few mormons I have coined the phrase peeling the "onion of mormon religion." I have other language, but it seems that it would not be tolerated.
I usually have to start by getting them to concede that they really do worship 3 different gods and do not worship One God like christians. This takes some effort to peel that layer.