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To: White Mountain
I would like to understand your theology and how you have arrived at your ideas. It's intriguing. You know Jesus turned the world upside down by insisting to the Pharisees that He was God's son, sent down from Heaven to them. They accused Him of calling Himself God, a great heresy to them only because they did not comprehend their own theology. They believed that they had to work to attain that Sonship and here He was, Joseph the carpenter's son, telling them that He had it!
1,751 posted on 02/04/2002 8:57:19 PM PST by la$tminutepardon
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To: la$tminutepardon
Your #1751: I would like to understand your theology and how you have arrived at your ideas. It's intriguing.

Have you seen my #1738, for example? (I showed in my reply that I didn't much care for the way her question was phrased.) I have been asked so many questions lately about my faith that I have posted quite a bit about it. In the most recent 50 posts on this thread there is #1727 and #1716.

Your #1750: Well, do we agree that The Plan of Salvation was in God's mind before the Creation and that all things were made for and created by the Manifested Word of God, and that the Spirit of God moved upon the waters in Genesis? If so, it looks like the Trinity to me, and that's all Hebrew, not Greek.

Yes, that is the Trinity to me also. There really isn't anything right there to show that the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are three individuals who are One God, but there are many other places in the Bible that do show that clearly, for example, at our Lord's baptism.

Your #1750: Offhand, I can nowhere see where you think Bible believing Christians are reading the Word through a Greek philosophy filter. I am truly perplexed.

Click on this link: Corporeal Nature of God

Look at the Bible verses, which are listed first, and review the various ways in which the Bible testifies that we are indeed created in the image of God. We should understand that quite literally, but when "reading the Word through a Greek philosophy filter" (you put it very well), one would say, well, that is symbolic, or figurative, or meant to be understood in a spiritual sense, without ever pinning down what "spiritual sense" is.

(In all this, I hope I succeed in speaking out without appearing to trample on what others consider sacred. To many people, the 4th-century creeds like the Nicene Creed are sacred Christian tradition. Heaven knows, what I consider sacred has been trampled upon enough in this forum.)

To me, it is very important to have a correct understanding of the nature of God, for we must have our attention focused on Him in order to see clearly what our eternal objectives are.

If God is thought to be something incorporeal, and if the way that the Father and the Son are One is to be "one substance", and yet both the same incorporeal thing, then you sit there scratching your head and wondering how to be one with that. Jesus prayed all believers would be one with God, as He is One with the Father.

On the other hand, when you know that you are literally a child of God, that you lived with Him before you were born here in a Father-child relationship, and are here, away from His Presence for a short time, to learn to live by faith and not by sight, to lean on Him as you go through difficulties, to go through death that you may better appreciate eternal life, and return to Him having done your best to live by the light He has given us (or to have another kind of result if you live another kind of life) -- that helps you know who you are, why you are here, and where you are going.

1,753 posted on 02/05/2002 12:08:45 AM PST by White Mountain
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