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To: xzins; RnMomof7; the_doc; Jerry_M; White Mountain; Mark17
The bible says that God was grieved, felt pain, and regretted. Those were his emotions. The bible is right. Not you.

Let me first say that WM must have some kind of mor-dar; that uncanny ability to know when someone is talking about the LDS. Just like GWB seems to have Bush-dar (I note is recent exchange with Jerry over Hebrews 10:14).

God has emotion, but He does not experience emotion the same way that we do. Therefore, you have to be careful that you don't make God like man. Romans 1:23 anyone?

To explain, we know that God knew before the world was framed that the Man who is His companion would have to Redeem His creation. (I pause to let WM pat himself on the back in his confusion over the Trinity.) Therefore, such events do not come as a suprise to God. He already foreknew what would happen and what he would do; that is, He already knew that He would destroy man from the face of the earth.


As for man in the image of God...

Mormons (WM will comment I'm sure) believe that in Genesis 1:26-7 that when God created man in His image that He created man in the form image of God; i.e. His physical likeness. I (and those who agree with me) believe that man was created in His spiritual image.

2 Corinthians 3:18 But we all, with uncovered face beholding as in a glass the glory of the Lord, are changed into the same image, from glory to glory, even as by the Spirit of the Lord.
Scripture must intrepret scripture. This above verse should statter your view that the Father has a form like that of man. Else, why would we need to be changed into the same image? Additionally, if we are already in the form image of God, then there would have been no need for Christ to change His form:
Philippians 2:5-7 Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus, who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God, but made Himself of no reputation, and took upon Him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men.
Now, if man is in the form image of God, then why did Christ need to assume the form of a servant (man)? And John 4:24 simply says that God is Spirit.

Now, when the Lord spoke to Moses (Exodus 33:11) the Lord spoke to Moses from a cloudy pillar, which is the visible reminder of His presence. He spoke to Moses from a burning Bush. These are hardly evidence that God has a human form.

Now as to your particular reference (Exodus 33:22), God's hand if it was a human hand would be nowhere big enough to protect Moses' face. Nor could a human hand remain in place long enough while God passed by Moses. This should clue you in that these are figurative references.

Aside to WM: I have never seen the Father just like I have never seen the Holy Spirit. But I have felt the presence of the Holy Spirit and I have had intimate encounters with the Son. Mormons are just plain wrong, but it is essential to your exhalted man belief.

1,682 posted on 02/02/2002 5:55:06 AM PST by CCWoody
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To: CCWoody
Woops my 1690 responds. I did not flag you
1,691 posted on 02/02/2002 7:05:45 AM PST by RnMomof7
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To: CCWoody
Your #1682 to xzins: I (and those who agree with me) believe that man was created in His spiritual image.

What does that mean to you, and how does that help you with the difficulty you have below?

2 Corinthians 3:18 But we all, with uncovered face beholding as in a glass the glory of the Lord, are changed into the same image, from glory to glory, even as by the Spirit of the Lord.

You continue: Scripture must intrepret scripture. This above verse should statter your view that the Father has a form like that of man. Else, why would we need to be changed into the same image?

In this verse, the righteous are glorified. The righteous receive the glory of the Lord, like the Ancient of Days in Daniel 7. It is a great verse about the willingness of the Lord to make the faithful and obedient like Himself. But you seem to be trying to make this verse contradict the one that says we are created in His image.

The passage in Philippians shows the converse, how the Lord Jesus laid aside the glory that He had with the Father before this world was, and entered mortality, and walked among us "without any beauty (glory), that we should desire Him".

But in all this, was not the premortal glorified Jesus, the mortal Jesus without any glory, and the resurrected, glorified Jesus always in the express image of His Father (Hebrews 1:3)?

This is a fine passage among a great many where Jesus is spoken of as a separate individual from the Father, yet One with the Father.

1,716 posted on 02/03/2002 12:30:08 AM PST by White Mountain
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