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To: rdb3
"Christ did not die for each and every man, but His elect in whom He foreknew from the foundation of the world."

"Sufficienter pro omnibus, efficaciter tantum pro electis." ("Sufficiently for all, efficaciously only for the elect.")

Christ did not die to offer redemption but to purchase redemption for the elect.

13 posted on 01/20/2002 6:17:41 PM PST by sheltonmac
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To: sheltonmac
"Sufficienter pro omnibus, efficaciter tantum pro electis." ("Sufficiently for all, efficaciously only for the elect.")

Thanks for the Latin!

17 posted on 01/20/2002 6:31:10 PM PST by RnMomof7
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To: sheltonmac
Christ did not die to offer redemption but to purchase redemption for the elect.

The scriptures clearly teach that Christ died and paid for the sins of the whole world;

1 John 2:2 And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.

If Christ only paid for the sins of the elect..and yet offers salvation to ALL MEN... that would be dishonest...and we know Christ cannot lie.

25 posted on 01/20/2002 6:53:25 PM PST by Jorge
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To: sheltonmac
Thank you. You're exactly right.
50 posted on 01/20/2002 7:31:24 PM PST by rdb3
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To: sheltonmac; RnMomof7
The question is then who comes?:>) - RnMomof7

Christ did not die to offer redemption but to purchase redemption for the elect. -sheltonmac

Amen and Amen. The Lord has taught you both well. Praise be to His glorious Name.

301 posted on 01/21/2002 12:12:22 AM PST by sola gracia
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To: sheltonmac
"Christ did not die to offer redemption but to purchase redemption for the elect."

Correct; because Christ purchased salvation for us it is a free gift, but that doesn't exclude the ability to reject that gift. Your reasoning simply doesn't stand up to scripture, because we see that people can deny the Christ that bought them.

"But false prophets also arose among the people, just as there will also be false teachers among you, who will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the Master who bought them, bringing swift destruction upon themselves" (2 Peter 2:1).

1,822 posted on 01/21/2005 8:57:55 AM PST by Literati1984
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