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"Are unrepentant murderers and adulterers indwelt by the Holy Spirit?" -- I am not quite sure what that has to do with a Man's ability to lose his salvation........so you tell me.

Gee, I am just not sure either. That is why I am ASKING you. You know a great deal about the indwelling of the Holy Spirit, no? And about that subject, I simply require a "yes" or "no" answer, for my own information:

Are unrepentant murderers and adulterers indwelt by the Holy Spirit?

Well? Yes, or No?

"If a Saved Man commits murder and adultery, and is not Repentant, does he remain Saved?" ~~ I dont know the importance of the crimes listed...sin is sin... I dont know where the threshold would be in that case though....he obviously would have opportunity to repent. I would suppose if he didnt repent then that disobedience would open the door for Satan to begin to darken his understanding until line upon line he could fully return to unbelief. I just dont know at what point the Lord deliniates between the person remaining in faith and then crossing back into unbelief.

If a Saved Christian man committed adultery and murder and six months passed and he did not repent one bit, would he still be Saved if he died that night? Why or why not?

I have given up on your second question.

WHAT?!?! You are not even able to read eight verses of Matthew?

Good grief. You should sit at A.J.Armitage's feet and plead with him, "teach me, rabbi, for I am not even able to read eight verses in a row. I need your understanding, I am a child in the Faith, and you are learned and wise, and able to read and understand eight or more verses in a row!!"

Why don't you try again.

First, try reading the Scripture...

Matthew 11: 20 - 27 -- Then Jesus began to denounce the cities in which most of his miracles had been performed, because they did not repent. "Woe to you, Korazin! Woe to you, Bethsaida! If the miracles that were performed in you had been performed in Tyre and Sidon, they would have repented long ago in sackcloth and ashes. But I tell you, it will be more bearable for Tyre and Sidon on the day of judgment than for you. And you, Capernaum, will you be lifted up to the skies? No, you will go down to the depths. If the miracles that were performed in you had been performed in Sodom, it would have remained to this day. But I tell you that it will be more bearable for Sodom on the day of judgment than for you." At that time Jesus said, "I praise you, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because you have hidden these things from the wise and learned, and revealed them to little children. Yes, Father, for this was your good pleasure." All things have been committed to me by my Father. No one knows the Son except the Father, and no one knows the Father except the Son and those to whom the Son chooses to reveal him.

Now, we'll break it into three questions, concerning the specific evidence of this passage:

Did the omniscient God foreknow that Tyre and Sidon would freely choose TO REPENT in the case of His performance of Miracles like unto those He performed in Chorazin and Bethsaida?
And did the omniscient God foreknow Tyre and Sidon would freely choose NOT TO REPENT in the case of His non-performance of such Miracles?
And did the omnipotent God CHOOSE not to perform these Miracles in Tyre and Sidon, a choice which had as its perfectly foreknown result the NON-Repentance of Tyre and Sidon, just as He foreknew?

Good grief. You should sit at A.J.Armitage's feet and plead with him, "teach me, rabbi, for I am not even able to read eight verses in a row. I need your understanding, I am a child in the Faith, and you are learned and wise, and able to read and understand eight or more verses in a row!!"

I should really turn down that kind of honor. All I'm done here, in any substantive sense, is quote or point to Scripture, and that only the most obvious. Still, it says what it says.

Actually, I've been, for the most part, talking about a single passage. But that one passage settles the whole issue, so I won't let it drop.

Honestly...

I hope you will understand but you are simply being brutish. I have been patient with your questions that apparently cannot be explained any other way but one.

I have answered oblique questions that are not germain to the point at which you joined the questioning of me.

Now...unless you can ammend your approach towards me and the subject matter in general I am simply going to ignore you.

I do not want to...I think free and open discussion of the points is good...but I wont be harrassed into going down side streets of doctrine that simply do not bring forth any fruit or understanding.

Perhaps I am a little too simple to wrap my brain around what you are driving at...eitherway....dumb it down and show some respect or you can simply question someone else.

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