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To: OrthodoxPresbyterian
"Precisely when does a Saved Christian, lose his salvation? One Sin? Two Sins? Three Sins? Four? For the sake of discussion, we'll grant the premise that a Christian can lose his salvation.

At what quantifiable point does it happen?

You got me...eitherway...salvation can indeed be lost if you aquire it through faith then you can lose it in unbelief or out and out disobedience without repentance. Let others seek for quantifications.

One question only. Only a one-word answer required, a simple "true" or "false": God foreknew Tyre and Sidon's free choice NOT TO REPENT in the case of His non-performance of such Miracles; AND God foreknew Tyre and Sidon's free choice TO REPENT in the case of His performance of such Miracles; AND God CHOSE not to perform these Miracles in Tyre and Sidon, a choice which had as its perfectly foreknown result the NON-Repentance of Tyre and Sidon, just as He foreknew. True, or False?"

Hehe...what?

1,080 posted on 01/24/2002 9:32:11 PM PST by VaBthang4
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To: VaBthang4, A.J.Armitage
You got me...eitherway...salvation can indeed be lost if you aquire it through faith then you can lose it in unbelief or out and out disobedience without repentance. Let others seek for quantifications.

Okay. Did King David at any time lose the Salvation-indwelling of the Holy Spirit when he committed adultery and murder, and did not repent for a full year? Just curious.

Hehe...what?

I'll repeat the question. Read closely, and answer. A one word answer only is all I ask, "true" or "false":


Matthew 11: 20 - 27 -- Then Jesus began to denounce the cities in which most of his miracles had been performed, because they did not repent. "Woe to you, Korazin! Woe to you, Bethsaida! If the miracles that were performed in you had been performed in Tyre and Sidon, they would have repented long ago in sackcloth and ashes. But I tell you, it will be more bearable for Tyre and Sidon on the day of judgment than for you. And you, Capernaum, will you be lifted up to the skies? No, you will go down to the depths. If the miracles that were performed in you had been performed in Sodom, it would have remained to this day. But I tell you that it will be more bearable for Sodom on the day of judgment than for you." At that time Jesus said, "I praise you, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because you have hidden these things from the wise and learned, and revealed them to little children. Yes, Father, for this was your good pleasure." All things have been committed to me by my Father. No one knows the Son except the Father, and no one knows the Father except the Son and those to whom the Son chooses to reveal him.



1,081 posted on 01/24/2002 9:53:56 PM PST by OrthodoxPresbyterian
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