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Catholics, Jews Unite To Attack Scholar's Latest, Goldhagen Stirring Ire With Article on Pius XII
FORWARD ^ | JANUARY 18, 2002 | MARC PERELMAN

Posted on 01/17/2002 10:36:20 PM PST by FreeSpeechConservative

Catholics, Jews Unite To Attack Scholar's Latest


Goldhagen Stirring Ire With Article on Pius XII


By MARC PERELMAN


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Participants in a troubled Jewish-Catholic dialogue found a rare point of agreement this week in their criticism of an article by historian Daniel Goldhagen that attacks the behavior of Pope Pius XII during World War II and raises the question of the church's responsibility for the Holocaust.

In a lengthy article, "What Would Jesus Have Done? Pope Pius XII, the Catholic Church and the Holocaust," published this week in The New Republic magazine, Mr. Goldhagen charges that Pope Pius XII was an anti-Semite and a collaborator with Nazi Germany. Moreover, he claims, there is an "obvious integral relationship" between the church's historical anti-Judaism and the genesis of the Holocaust. He also calls for examining the culpability of the church for the Holocaust.

"Anti-Semitism led to the Holocaust," wrote Mr. Goldhagen, a former Harvard professor and author of a controversial 1996 book, "Hitler's Willing Executioners." "Anti-Semitism has been integral to the Catholic Church. Surely the question of what the relationship is between the church's anti-Semitism and the Holocaust should be at the center of any general treatment of either of these subjects."

Eugene Fisher, associate director of the Secretariat for Ecumenical and Interreligious Affairs of the National Conference of Catholic Bishops in Washington, lashed out at Mr. Goldhagen.

"This is a remarkably uninformed piece," said Mr. Fisher, who has been involved for many years in Jewish-Catholic dialogue. "He lives in fantasy land and he is making this up. It's a sad case and he ought to see a psychiatrist."

Rabbi David Rosen, international director of inter-religious affairs at the American Jewish Committee, said that Mr. Goldhagen "has an unconcealed antagonism against the Catholic Church, and it shows."

Rabbi Rosen added that while the article was "fine on the past, it was woefully uninformed on the present efforts by the church to mend its ways." Several other scholars and members of the Jewish-Catholic dialogue interviewed for this article made the same point and were especially incensed that steps taken by Pope John Paul II were not acknowledged by Mr. Goldhagen. (See ForwardForum, Page 9.) While some agreed with Mr. Goldhagen's criticism of Pius XII, they criticized his sweeping indictment of the church. Mr. Goldhagen declined to comment on the reactions. He told the Forward that the article was the foundation for his upcoming book, "A Moral Reckoning, the Catholic Church During the Holocaust and Today," to be published in the fall.

His article comes at a time of renewed tensions between Jews and Catholics over the proposed beatification of Pius XII. For years, Jewish groups have protested the Vatican's intention to beatify a pope who, they claim, maintained a guilty silence during the Holocaust. Last summer, the work of a joint historical commission formed to study the wartime archives of the Vatican stalled over the refusal of Vatican officials to give historians full access to the archives, prompting acrimonious exchanges between Jewish and Catholic officials.

However, Seymour Reich, chairman of the International Jewish Committee on Interreligious Consultations, the official Jewish liaison with the Vatican, praised the Goldhagen article as "very powerful" and believed it would have a "great impact."

"If the Catholic Church wants to defend itself against those charges, there is only one solution - open the wartime archives," said Mr. Reich, who has spent considerable time negotiating with the Vatican to open its archives and who expressed frustration after those efforts foundered last summer.

Mr. Goldhagen's piece is presented as a review essay of several books in the issue. But his personal thoughts are clearly on display and The New Republic presents his article as "an exhaustive investigation."

Mr. Goldhagen starts the article by denouncing the "exculpatory strategies" used by apologists of Pius XII and compares them to the ones used by those trying to exculpate ordinary Germans of their responsibility for, and participation in, the Holocaust. This is a direct reference to the thesis he defended in "Hitler's Willing Executioners," which prompted vivid criticism from some of his fellow historians for his broad denunciation of the German people.

In addition to a relatively consensual criticism of Pius XII's inaction to help Jews, Mr. Goldhagen also claims that the pope was an anti-Semite who collaborated with Nazi Germany - like Marshall Philippe Petain in France or Vidkun Quisling in Norway - most noticeably by signing a concordat agreement with Adolph Hitler in 1933.

But more crucially, Mr. Goldhagen argues that the focus over Pius XII's beatification deflects criticism over the church's past and the attitude of the Vatican and the national churches during the war. This leads him to the most devastating charges of the article, the link between the Church and the Holocaust.

Mr. Goldhagen writes that the "iron curtain" erected by the church between its theological anti- Judaism and Germany's anti-Semitism is a "fiction" that must be lifted.

"This inevitably leads to a consideration of the degree of the church's culpability not just for its reactions to the eliminationist onslaught, but also for the Holocaust itself," he wrote.

He notes that the Catholic Church could find "common cause" with most of the declarations of anti-Semites in the 1930s and claims it makes "little difference" if "their litanies of hatred were not 100 percent congruent, but only a figurative 90 percent."

Mr. Goldhagen goes on to describe as insufficient efforts made by the church since the war, from the "tepid and deeply flawed" Vatican II Council in 1965, which officially recognized that the Jews did not kill Jesus, to the "half-heartedness and historical fabrications" of the 1998 "We Remember" declaration by the church on the Holocaust, which acknowledged the shortcomings of the church during the war.

"This is really the area where he shows lack of knowledge," said Rabbi Rosen of AJCommittee. "There are many other documents and efforts made that he seems not to know about and this is troubling."


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To: Zviadist
I deduce from earlier posts that you are of the Catholic faith. What can say; obviously you must be guilty as hell and should be 'rottet aus'. Apart from that, what will Goldhagen do next? Perhaps it is time to investigate the conduct of those cold-hearted pinguins during WWII. I heard of a few suspicious bank-accounts that need to be investigated...
141 posted on 01/20/2002 5:12:25 AM PST by NewAmsterdam
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To: Zviadist
Simple, really. Four rules are followed that feed Jew-hating beliefs:
1) Never admit that the Israelis (or, at times, people of Jewish faith) do ANYTHING wrong. Ever.
2) Accuse anyone who does criticize the Israelis and/or Jews of being either an anti-Semite or a Nazi or both.
3) If not making explicit accusations of Nazism maintain diversionary ad hominem attacks that win neither debating points nor converts to your point of view. And
4) Deny the obvious (e.g., "The Jews do not have political power way beyond their numbers;" or "The Jews do not have extraordinary media control."

Respectfully,
PB

142 posted on 01/20/2002 7:15:19 AM PST by Pharmboy
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To: NewAmsterdam
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Apart from that, what will Goldhagen do next?

Bugger me arse?

143 posted on 01/20/2002 1:56:37 PM PST by Zviadist
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To: Pharmboy
Well, I'd say you are full of crap if I hadn't seen it myself consistently here for months. Now I would say that you seem to have some useful insights.
144 posted on 01/20/2002 1:58:00 PM PST by Zviadist
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To: Romulus
TNE reflects the views of its owner. Don't subscribe to it.
145 posted on 01/20/2002 2:05:03 PM PST by RobbyS
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To: NewAmsterdam

I deduce from earlier posts that you are of the Catholic faith. What can say; obviously you must be guilty as hell and should be 'rottet aus'.

By the way, my dear protestant friends should not misunderstand my earlier argumentation. I meant only to state clearly the Roman Catholic doctrine as it has been preached. It is only to draw attention to the multi-culti attempts to pretend that all religions are the same and we should all just hug. I have great respect for many of the protestant faiths, as those who know me know very well. Many have strong attractions for me. I do however have my own spiritual views that I do not attempt to preach. They do not affect my friendships with others. No one can presume to know the mind of God, however, but I am following the path that makes the most sense to me. I hope you get my points. Cheers,

146 posted on 01/20/2002 2:06:27 PM PST by Zviadist
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To: Zviadist
Thank you for the acknowledgement.

And not only do we see these four practiced here, we see them in many places.

150 posted on 01/20/2002 2:17:42 PM PST by Pharmboy
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To: Zviadist
Of course I get your points. I am sure you realised I was being sarcastic. Me, not being a Catholic, can get very annoyed with the completely secular liberal creeps who have some sort of religious heritage (be it Jewish or Protestant) who only use that to beat up Catholics. I do consider that an insult to the Lord we all in one way or other believe in. And, no, I am not into hugs. But at the same time I do not consider Catholics agents of the devil. In these godless times, anyone who sincerely believes in the God of the Bible should be considered a 'brother'. This even includes Muslims, as far as I am concerned. Hope all is well!
151 posted on 01/20/2002 2:31:52 PM PST by NewAmsterdam
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To: Viva La Homeschool
Is that the best you can do?
152 posted on 01/20/2002 2:32:50 PM PST by Romulus
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To: Romulus
I've read a lot about Pius XII and even more today:-} So why doesn't some Catholic or Catholics make a GOOD, contemporary movie from his life. These books that have been written slandering his name will slip into anonymity but a good movie that appeals to the masses will do for Pius XII what it did for the obscure Schindler. Maybe you could start writting the screen play now?!?!

I'm not joking!!!

153 posted on 01/20/2002 2:51:04 PM PST by tiki
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To: tiki
Golly. Well at least going cold turkey I'd kick my FR addiction.
154 posted on 01/20/2002 2:55:59 PM PST by Romulus
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To: Romulus
I'd help, if I could! And there are many other Catholic FReepers out there who would probably be willing to help too.
156 posted on 01/20/2002 3:07:15 PM PST by tiki
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To: Viva La Homeschool

with Hitler's wishes, he was after all Catholic.

Don't know much about Nazi ideology, do you? Hitler was a pagan, a worshipper of Norse gods. He was about as Catholic as Martin Luther.

157 posted on 01/20/2002 3:24:56 PM PST by Zviadist
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To: NewAmsterdam

Me, not being a Catholic, can get very annoyed with the completely secular liberal creeps who have some sort of religious heritage (be it Jewish or Protestant) who only use that to beat up Catholics.

I guess we differ a bit here. I think it is rather comforting to hear Protestants attacking Catholics and their views. The real danger, as far as retrograde folks like me are concerned, is the anti-Christian inspired watering down of all religions so that they can all "get along" at the lowest common denominator. This is the biggest danger, as far as I am concerned. Anyway, I am not stating it well but you know well what I mean. I'll take a fiery protestant preacher over a limp-wristed neo-"Catholic" priest any day (though as an avowed monarchist and anti-democrat my heart is in the old societies created by and around the Roman Church and Christendom, as in pre-reformation "dark" ages. If only I could go back, if only there were a time machine. I would gladly leave this world behind.

158 posted on 01/20/2002 3:30:34 PM PST by Zviadist
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To: Viva La Homeschool
Didn't the young JPII sell the gas to the Germans for killing the Jews?

Now really, aren't you embarrassed to be associating that kind of thing with homeschooling?

159 posted on 01/20/2002 4:09:03 PM PST by A.J.Armitage
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