Catholics, Jews Unite To Attack Scholar's Latest, Goldhagen Stirring Ire With Article on Pius XII

FORWARD ^ | JANUARY 18, 2002 | MARC PERELMAN

[NewAmsterdam]

I deduce from earlier posts that you are of the Catholic faith. What can say; obviously you must be guilty as hell and should be 'rottet aus'. Apart from that, what will Goldhagen do next? Perhaps it is time to investigate the conduct of those cold-hearted pinguins during WWII. I heard of a few suspicious bank-accounts that need to be investigated...

[Pharmboy]

Simple, really. Four rules are followed that feed Jew-hating beliefs:
1) Never admit that the Israelis (or, at times, people of Jewish faith) do ANYTHING wrong. Ever.
2) Accuse anyone who does criticize the Israelis and/or Jews of being either an anti-Semite or a Nazi or both.
3) If not making explicit accusations of Nazism maintain diversionary ad hominem attacks that win neither debating points nor converts to your point of view. And
4) Deny the obvious (e.g., "The Jews do not have political power way beyond their numbers;" or "The Jews do not have extraordinary media control."

Respectfully,
PB

[Zviadist]

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Apart from that, what will Goldhagen do next?

Bugger me arse?

[Zviadist]

Well, I'd say you are full of crap if I hadn't seen it myself consistently here for months. Now I would say that you seem to have some useful insights.

[RobbyS]

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[Zviadist]

I deduce from earlier posts that you are of the Catholic faith. What can say; obviously you must be guilty as hell and should be 'rottet aus'.

By the way, my dear protestant friends should not misunderstand my earlier argumentation. I meant only to state clearly the Roman Catholic doctrine as it has been preached. It is only to draw attention to the multi-culti attempts to pretend that all religions are the same and we should all just hug. I have great respect for many of the protestant faiths, as those who know me know very well. Many have strong attractions for me. I do however have my own spiritual views that I do not attempt to preach. They do not affect my friendships with others. No one can presume to know the mind of God, however, but I am following the path that makes the most sense to me. I hope you get my points. Cheers,

[Pharmboy]

Thank you for the acknowledgement.

And not only do we see these four practiced here, we see them in many places.

[NewAmsterdam]

Of course I get your points. I am sure you realised I was being sarcastic. Me, not being a Catholic, can get very annoyed with the completely secular liberal creeps who have some sort of religious heritage (be it Jewish or Protestant) who only use that to beat up Catholics. I do consider that an insult to the Lord we all in one way or other believe in. And, no, I am not into hugs. But at the same time I do not consider Catholics agents of the devil. In these godless times, anyone who sincerely believes in the God of the Bible should be considered a 'brother'. This even includes Muslims, as far as I am concerned. Hope all is well!

[Romulus]

Is that the best you can do?

[tiki]

I've read a lot about Pius XII and even more today:-} So why doesn't some Catholic or Catholics make a GOOD, contemporary movie from his life. These books that have been written slandering his name will slip into anonymity but a good movie that appeals to the masses will do for Pius XII what it did for the obscure Schindler. Maybe you could start writting the screen play now?!?!

I'm not joking!!!

[Romulus]

Golly. Well at least going cold turkey I'd kick my FR addiction.

[tiki]

I'd help, if I could! And there are many other Catholic FReepers out there who would probably be willing to help too.

[Zviadist]

with Hitler's wishes, he was after all Catholic.

Don't know much about Nazi ideology, do you? Hitler was a pagan, a worshipper of Norse gods. He was about as Catholic as Martin Luther.

[Zviadist]

Me, not being a Catholic, can get very annoyed with the completely secular liberal creeps who have some sort of religious heritage (be it Jewish or Protestant) who only use that to beat up Catholics.

I guess we differ a bit here. I think it is rather comforting to hear Protestants attacking Catholics and their views. The real danger, as far as retrograde folks like me are concerned, is the anti-Christian inspired watering down of all religions so that they can all "get along" at the lowest common denominator. This is the biggest danger, as far as I am concerned. Anyway, I am not stating it well but you know well what I mean. I'll take a fiery protestant preacher over a limp-wristed neo-"Catholic" priest any day (though as an avowed monarchist and anti-democrat my heart is in the old societies created by and around the Roman Church and Christendom, as in pre-reformation "dark" ages. If only I could go back, if only there were a time machine. I would gladly leave this world behind.

[A.J.Armitage]

Didn't the young JPII sell the gas to the Germans for killing the Jews?

Now really, aren't you embarrassed to be associating that kind of thing with homeschooling?