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To: BullDog108
"DEBKA's credibility is worthless, however, I agree with this scenario."

Three questions:

1. When was the last time DEBKA got something right? This was the source that had U.S. Marines training under desert conditions near Scranton, PA in preparation for battle in Afghanistan.

2. Why did most of the witnesses definitively state that the tail separated first? And, if a wing came off first, why wasn't it located further upstream, ahead of the tail?

3. Why would a shoe bomber light his fuse immediately after takeoff? Why would he not wait until the plane was out of sight and over open water, so there was no risk that the stunt would be detected?

DEBKA is, as usual, full of it. WND doesn't help their own credibility by repeating one of DEBKA's fabrications.

59 posted on 01/17/2002 4:52:12 PM PST by okie01
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To: okie01
2. Why did most of the witnesses definitively state that the tail separated first? And, if a wing came off first, why wasn't it located further upstream, ahead of the tail?

I've read quite a bit of eyewitness reports re 587, and the issue they haggled over was whether the airliner was on fire before it went down. I've not seen any reports of eyewitnesses discussing whether the wing or the tail fell off first. If you have seen reports stating otherwise, I'd love to see them.

3. Why would a shoe bomber light his fuse immediately after takeoff? Why would he not wait until the plane was out of sight and over open water, so there was no risk that the stunt would be detected?

Since the stunt wasn't detected, your rhetorical question is beside the point. But there's a very good reason why the bomber would light the fuse within two minutes of takeoff: to kill as many people as possible on the ground. Had the bomber waited an additional thirty seconds, the plane would have been over the Atlantic Ocean. On the other hand, a bomber would not have a single reason for blowing up a plane over the ocean.

71 posted on 01/17/2002 5:01:08 PM PST by mrustow
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To: okie01
1. When was the last time DEBKA got something right? This was the source that had U.S. Marines training under desert conditions near Scranton, PA in preparation for battle in Afghanistan

You mean in the former PA coal mine where the MEU-SOC guys practice using IR and other night vision equipment in no-strarlight conditions, as might be expected to be found in Afghani caves?

It's actually closer to Pittsburgh, not too far from Robert Morris University.

-archy-/-

72 posted on 01/17/2002 5:01:38 PM PST by archy
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To: okie01
3. Why would a shoe bomber light his fuse immediately after takeoff? Why would he not wait until the plane was out of sight and over open water...

?To land on Americans...

74 posted on 01/17/2002 5:06:21 PM PST by copycat
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To: okie01
well during take-off would be the best time to do so, since all flight attendents are strapped in and no one is milling about. Debka has some fat out false stories, but the idea that this was a bomb from inside is not a big stretch, more likely in the rear of the plane though
91 posted on 01/17/2002 5:36:32 PM PST by veryconernedamerican
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To: okie01
"3. Why would a shoe bomber light his fuse immediately after takeoff? Why would he not wait until the plane was out of sight and over open water, so there was no risk that the stunt would be detected?"

I think that one answer would be "to crash another airplane in New York City". Over open water -- would have lost the effect. Another terrorist bombing -- very bad for the finacial markets. Bin Laden has stated that he'll destroy our economy -- then he'll destroy us. I think it's entirely feasible that this was a bombing.

133 posted on 01/17/2002 7:20:33 PM PST by alethia
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