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Kandahar comes out of the closet
The Times (U.K.) ^ | 01/12/2002 | TIM REID

Posted on 01/11/2002 3:41:19 PM PST by Pokey78

Our correspondent sees the gay capital of South Asia throw off strictures of the Taleban

NOW that Taleban rule is over in Mullah Omar’s former southern stronghold, it is not only televisions, kites and razors which have begun to emerge.

Visible again, too, are men with their ashna, or beloveds: young boys they have groomed for sex.

Kandahar’s Pashtuns have been notorious for their homosexuality for centuries, particularly their fondness for naive young boys. Before the Taleban arrived in 1994, the streets were filled with teenagers and their sugar daddies, flaunting their relationship.

It is called the homosexual capital of south Asia. Such is the Pashtun obsession with sodomy — locals tell you that birds fly over the city using only one wing, the other covering their posterior — that the rape of young boys by warlords was one of the key factors in Mullah Omar mobilising the Taleban.

In the summer of 1994, a few months before the Taleban took control of the city, two commanders confronted each other over a young boy whom they both wanted to sodomise.

In the ensuing fight civilians were killed. Omar’s group freed the boy and appeals began flooding in for Omar to help in other disputes.

By November, Omar and his Taleban were Kandahar’s new rulers. Despite the Taleban disdain for women, and the bizarre penchant of many for eyeliner, Omar immediately suppressed homosexuality.

Men accused of sodomy faced the punishment of having a wall toppled on to them, usually resulting in death. In February 1998 three men sentenced to death for sodomy in Kandahar were taken to the base of a huge mud and brick wall, which was pushed over by tank. Two of them died, but one managed to survive.

“In the days of the Mujahidin, there were men with their ashna everywhere, at every corner, in shops, on the streets, in hotels: it was completely open, a part of life,” said Torjan, 38, one of the soldiers loyal to Kandahar’s new governor, Gul Agha Sherzai.

“But in the later Mujahidin years, more and more soldiers would take boys by force, and keep them for as long as they wished. But when the Taleban came, they were very strict about the ban. Of course, it still happened — the Taleban could not enter every house — but one could not see it.”

But for the first time since the Taleban fled, in the past three days, one can see the pairs returning: usually a heavily bearded man, seated next to, or walking with, a clean-shaven, fresh faced youth. There appears to be no shame or furtiveness about them, although when approached, they refuse to talk to a western journalist.

“They are just emerging again,” Torjan said. “The fighters too now have the boys in their barracks. This was brought to the attention of Gul Agha, who ordered the boys to be expelled, but it continues. The boys live with the fighters very openly. In a short time, and certainly within a year, it will be like pre-Taleban: they will be everywhere.”

This Pashtun tradition is even reflected in Pashtun poetry, odes written to the beauty and complexion of an ashna, but it is usually a terrible fate for the boys concerned. It is practised at all levels of Pashtun society, but for the poorer men, having an ashna can raise his status.

“When a man sees a boy he likes — the age they like is 15 or 16 — they will approach him in the street and start talking to him, offering him tea,” said Muhammad Shah, a shop owner. “Sometimes they go looking in the football stadium, or in the cinema (which has yet to reopen).

“He then starts to give him presents, hashish, or a watch, a ring, or even a motorbike. One of the most valued presents is a fighting pigeon, which can be worth up to $400 (£277). These boys are nearly always innocent, but such is the poverty here, they cannot refuse.”

Once the boy falls into the man’s clutches — nearly always men with a wife and family — he is marked for life, although the Kandaharis accept these relationships as part of their culture.

When driven around, ashna sit in the front passenger seat. The back seat is simply for his friends. Even the parents of the boys know in their hearts the nature of the relationship, but will tell people that their son is working for the man. They, like everyone else, will know this is a lie. “They say birds flew with both wings with the Taleban,” Muhammad said. “But not any more.”


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To: ArGee
Can we all agree that abusing young boys rates condemnation of the Pashtun culture?

Along with massive heroin production, abuse of the women, and using their children as punching bags, I'd say YES!

101 posted on 01/14/2002 8:07:41 AM PST by Travis McGee
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To: Travis McGee
I'd say YES!

Sure! I knew you could!

Shalom.

102 posted on 01/14/2002 8:34:54 AM PST by ArGee
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To: Travis McGee
Since this is still being kicked around, I'll add this little historical fact.

Khandahar was founded by Alexander the Great and is in fact named after him.

Any "centuries-old" traditions of sodomy in the region trace their roots back to Western Civilization and the Greeks.

103 posted on 01/15/2002 9:47:36 AM PST by AGAviator
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To: Pokey78,grlfrnd
birds fly over the city using only one wing, the other covering their posterior

That's just like San Francisco, isn't it?

Despite the Taleban disdain for women, and the bizarre penchant of many for eyeliner, Omar immediately suppressed homosexuality.

I am sure it's a good bet that Omar and Osmama and company all had their teen butt-boys despite proscribing it for others. These guys were all talk. My personal pop-psychology analysis of this is that the Omar dudes REPRESSED their sexual desires, that their unnatural desire for boy children caused them to project all of that anger and disdain towards women. Think about it.

...EYELINER??????WHAT is up with that? That is the FIRST I have heard of that!??

Sometimes they go looking in the football stadium, or in the cinema (which has yet to reopen).

Ok, that's the same wherever homos are anywhere.

One of the most valued presents is a fighting pigeon

Fighting PIGEON? Eyeliner?

Damn these are some very sick people.

(But what is the difference between them and U.S. homos when it comes to preferring boys to females.)

Seriously---

We despise the way they treat their women, and much has been made of that as a motivating factor in loathing these people. But no one has mentioned that we have even more reason to loath the ragheads because of how they treat CHILDREN!

Oh---never mind. It's BOY children, and it is homo men. Notice that no one in U.S. media is going to mention this, much less criticize it.

Seems to me that I recall much being made of rape (the rape of women) by other armies in other battlegrounds, arousing righteous indignation and wrath by civlized nations. No one has mentioned this rape of boy children, however. (I won't be holding my breath.) American gay men are pink with envy, I'm sure. (A little humor there.)

Seriously---Taliban John from Cali, he born of gay parents---I have always argued he must have been playing for the other side in gender besides in arms. Can you imagine how the grisly Afghan buggerers looked at a lily white, pampered Amercian who'd never done a lick of manual labor or hard living in his life? And Johnny MUST have known this would be the case...

Islam is not only a "religion" of hate, it is a culture of animalistic buggery. Sickening, ain't it?

104 posted on 01/27/2002 10:21:43 AM PST by gg188
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To: gg188
Yes. And the reason it's not front page news is because it's boys, and the homosexual agenda needs to make itself acceptable to the mainstream. So we'll never see this on Dan Blather, Tom Brokenjaw, CNN, MSNBC, alphabet channels. Gays don't want this to get out. However, hopefully we'll keep hammering about it.
105 posted on 01/27/2002 1:26:38 PM PST by I_Love_My_Husband
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