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To: BeAChooser
Scenario A=They shoot him on the ground, before the flight takes off and do the "Weekend at Bernie's" thing.

Scenario B=They shoot him while in flight, in front of all the passengers, then talk the pilot into crashing the airplane.

Scenario C=They have a team waiting in the mountains in case Ron survived the crash, who will shoot him. Of course, not really knowing WHERE the plane would crash, they must have had hundreds of hit men out there.

Then, they get literally HUNDREDS of people, Air Force personnel, families, friends, etc. to participate in the cover-up.

207 posted on 01/17/2002 10:36:25 AM PST by Luis Gonzalez
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To: Luis Gonzalez
Scenario C=They have a team waiting in the mountains in case Ron survived the crash, who will shoot him. Of course, not really knowing WHERE the plane would crash, they must have had hundreds of hit men out there.

Still RUNNING from the pathologists and x-ray I see.

Why do you say they wouldn't know WHERE the plane would crash? Have you missed the facts I posted you COUNTLESS times about the missing airport beacon and what Aviation Week said about it? RUNNING from those FACTS too? As Aviation Week indicated, the missing beacon could have been used to spoof the plane into flying into a KNOWN location on a mountain ... where a cleanup crew could be waiting. Maybe that is why the maintenance officer in charge of those beacons had to commit "suicide" days after the crash before he could be interviewed? Are you also IGNORING the FACT that Associated Press reported that the first OFFICIAL rescuers were MET by 3 Americans? Could those 3 have been the cleanup crew?

Also, how come both an AWACS and the airport lost transponder contact with the plane when it was still 8 MILES from the crash site if nothing was amiss aboard the plane? Aviation Week reported that they SIMULTANEOUSLY lost radio contact (2 separate systems). Explain that or are you going to just IGNORE those facts like that bogus investigation report you like so much DID? Or how about this ... why did they initially announce finding wreckage of the plane in the ocean, miles and miles from the crash site? Could that have been a deliberate move to keep attention away from the crash site until they were sure?

But ... in any case ... why are you STILL RUNNING from the pathologists and the x-ray? Why do you FEAR a simple exhumation and autopsy so much?

Then, they get literally HUNDREDS of people, Air Force personnel, families, friends, etc. to participate in the cover-up.

DISINFORMATION. SPIN. DEFLECTION. I've responded to this same argument from you REPEATEDLY (just as you have NEVER responded to ANY of the points I made above). It does NOT require 100's of people be in the know to stymie an investigation.

Control the head of the AFIP and the attending pathologist and you control the report they give to the crash investigation team. That's EXACTLY what happened and now we know that the head of the AFIP and the attending pathologist BOTH LIED REPEATEDLY about the nature of the evidence and what happened during the examination.

Control the crash investigation team members and the ASSUMPTION that they start with (that it was an accident) and you stymie any chance of an HONEST investigation. That's EXACTLY what they did. They SKIPPED the normal Safety Board (cutting out of the loop the people that are normally tasked with FINDING the CAUSE of crashes) and instead left it up to the ACCIDENT investigation team CONTROLLED by one of their own ... someone who was publically saying it was PILOT ERROR and WEATHER before the investigation had even begun. And the military being the military ... everyone else just did as ORDERED.

How do you handle family members and the public?

(1) Don't tell them all the facts after the crash ... like the fact that pathologists DURING the examination were saying "BULLET" and calling for an autopsy. Make sure such information isn't in ANYTHING (not the official report or the private briefings) that were given to ANY of the families. Make sure that NOT ONE major paper or network news outlet mentions any of the facts that later come out about the crash, the suspicious wound or the whistleblower's views. And that's EXACTLY what happened.

(2) Blackmail them. Brown's family had both the wife and son already under INDICTMENT at the time of the crash. In exchange for staying silent, promise that Brown's wife would get her indictment dropped and her son would get a slap on the hand for SERIOUS violations of the law. And that's EXACTLY what happened.

(3) Reward them. Give the son a lucrative job and keep him employed to this day. Provide each family with MILLIONS (on the average 13 to 14 MILLIONS) of dollars in compensation. Make sure that in exchange for that money they have to drop their lawsuits. Promote those in the military who went along. And that's EXACTLY what happened.

(4) Threaten them. KNOWING that the administration had KILLED their husband/dad, AND STILL controlled the law enforcement agencies, military AND media, do you think threats wouldn't also have been effective against the Brown family? Knowing that some of those on board the plane violated the law to be there, do you thinks threats wouldn't have been effective against other families? Look at the threats made against the military officers in the case who first went public about the events at Dover?

(5) Deceive them. And later, when the daughter found out about the pathologists and started asking for an autopsy, they again used LIES. She relied on a private investigator (want to bet he didn't have ties to the DNC or Clintons?) who FALSELY told her that the found no exit wound so it couldn't have been a bullet. Float one bogus explanation after another to explain the what the x-rays show. Make sure that the papers publish LIES (such as the one by the head of AFIP where he said ALL the pathologists at AFIP agreed that it was blunt force trauma) (such as the WORST WEATHER OF THE CENTURY lie that ALL the new media carried and that most people STILL believe to this day).

(6) Destroy all whistleblowers. Instead of simply showing the military officers who first blew the whistle on a possible murder and coverup that they were mistaken ... that the wound and x-rays don't suggest a bullet ... the government DESTROYED their CAREERS. That sort of response would have a chilling effect on ANYONE in the military or government, wouldn't you say Luis?

(7) Act concerned. Have both Bill and Hillary visit the Brown's and shed some crocodile tears. Make sure that Ted Kennedy joins along. Have them utter compassionate words at the funeral for public and private consumption. Never mind that immediately following the funeral cameras catch Bill whooping it up with his associates (laughter which instantly turns to tears once he notices the camera).

(8) Ignore them. Instead of responding to most of the allegations the administration and their spokespersons simply ignored them ... and the media went along ... so the issues just died a quiet death before most of those you name even heard about them (including people in the military who were actually involved). Isn't that EXACTLY what you are trying to do here? ... ignore the pathologists and what they say?

218 posted on 01/17/2002 2:17:30 PM PST by BeAChooser
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To: Luis Gonzalez
Agreed your Scenarios A and B are very unlikely.

While C seems implausible, it matches some of the facts. If there was foul play with the transponders, for instance, you wouldn't need hundreds of hit men. Heck, if you had a couple of teams in the neighborhood, you could gamble the crash did the job if too many witnesses showed up.

Btw, if there was at least one team there, perhaps they were the same bunch that monkeyed with the transponders, which narrows down the possibilities, I would think.

Further, you wouldn't need hundreds to participate in a cover-up. And it's not like members of that administration wouldn't lie if necessary, as we have seen many times.

219 posted on 01/17/2002 2:40:39 PM PST by Tymesup
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