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To: lormand, OWK
Speaking of looking silly..... Ortho writes..... "IF a libertarian believes that the unborn child is human, his most fundamental ethical principle requires him to be pro-life. Or didn't you know that?" What is this IF business? Do you mean that a Libertarian may or may not believe this? So Libertarians are not in agreement with THE most defining issue facing America's morality decay? I'm shocked! So a Libertarian can play loose with Libertarianism and still claim to be Libertarian right?

Gee, as it happens, Republicans are not in agreement on THE most defining issue facing America's morality decay. I'm Shocked!!

Some Republicans believe that the unborn child is a human being. They're right.
Other Republicans believe that the unborn child is not a human being. They're wrong... but they're Republicans nonetheless.

Bottom line is, for determining a person's political view on the subject, OF COURSE you have to ask an "if-then" question. (What, that didn't occur to you?? How silly....). IF a voter (Libertarian or Republican) believes that the unborn child is a human being, they will usually be pro-life. IF they do not believe that the unborn child is a human being, they often will be pro-abortion.

And as we all know, plenty of Republicans play fast and loose on this subject, so don't be surprised that libertarians disagree as well. At least the libertarian candidate in 2000 declared his specific intention to see Roe v. Wade revoked. Bush hinted at it strongly (to his credit), but never really had the gumption to take the clear and absolute anti-Roe stand that the Libertarian did.

Funny, that.

214 posted on 01/11/2002 1:55:29 PM PST by OrthodoxPresbyterian
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To: OrthodoxPresbyterian
"Gee, as it happens, Republicans are not in agreement on THE most defining issue facing America's morality decay. I'm Shocked!!"

I guess the confusion is that Libertarian is both the name of an ideology and the name of a party. I'm trying to make the distinction in my arguements, but I keep getting replies dealing with politics, not ideology.

I am a Conservative before I claim to be a Republican. There is a big difference.

227 posted on 01/11/2002 2:08:29 PM PST by lormand
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