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Just what is a Libertarian?
Internet - Lost URL | FR Post 01-11-02 | Written by Deanna Corbeil

Posted on 01/11/2002 8:57:38 AM PST by vannrox

Just what is a Libertarian?
(The party & philosophy)




Out of the many political philosophies that exist, one of the most misunderstood is libertarianism. It is frequently labeled part of the “extreme right”, or it is merely associated with drug legalization. Truthfully, there may be several definitions of the term, but in general, libertarianism encompasses all or most of the following: strong support of individual civil liberties, social tolerance, and private property; belief in the positive powers of the free market; and an espousal of constitutionally limited and greatly reduced government. To put it succinctly, the libertarian believes in the freedom of individuals to pursue their lives as they see fit, as long as they cause no harm to others, with minimal governmental interference.


Libertarian thought is rooted historically in the ideas of many of the Enlightenment thinkers, including John Locke, Voltaire, and Adam Smith, as well as many of the founding fathers of America, including Thomas Jefferson, Patrick Henry, and Thomas Paine. Many libertarians prefer to call themselves “classical liberals”. Their philosophy has also been influenced by writer Ayn Rand’s “Objectivism”, and various free-market economists, including Milton Friedman, F.A. Hayek, and Ludwig von Mises.


To more clearly illustrate libertarian thoughts and beliefs, it is helpful to see how these ideas would affect certain issues being debated at this time. Specifically,
    Freedom of Speech,
    The international scene (including military defense),
    Taxation,
    and, of course, Drug Prohibition.
(Keep in mind that libertarians, like most people, don’t agree on everything. In fact, their emphasis on individualism gives rise to a great deal of disagreement.)


Libertarians are strongly supportive of the civil liberties detailed in the Bill of Rights of our Constitution. They maintain that the Constitution does not grant us these rights, but instead recognizes those rights we naturally possess by virtue of our humanity. Included in these rights is the freedom of speech. Unlike many other supporters of free speech, the libertarian sees it as having a connection with property rights. For example, many would claim that to deny the publication of a certain person’s ideas or works would be censorship. The libertarian would say that you can publish anything you would like on a printing press you personally own, but to force someone else to print it would be coercion.


Another area in which libertarians have a unique philosophy is that concerning international affairs, military defense, and police functions. Many in the libertarian movement believe that the only legitimate functions of government are to provide military protection and law enforcement. They would oppose those “entangling alliances” that Jefferson mentioned which lead to treaties like NATO and organizations like the United Nations. They believe these can lead to unnecessary entanglements with other nations, and may ultimately usurp the sovereignty of the individual.


When it comes to the issue of taxes, it is helpful to reflect on the libertarian’s view of property rights. The libertarian view is generally that an individual should have the right to do with his property what he will, as long as it is not causing harm to someone else. In this case, the property being considered is the money an individual has earned. If the result of your labor is money, then it belongs to you, not the government. If another individual came along and took your money from you without your consent, it would be considered theft by our legal system. The libertarian views it as no less a crime when the government takes your money without your consent via taxation. (In those cases where taxation is “necessary”, libertarians prefer the taxes to be low and only minimally intrusive.)


The aspect most often associated with its philosophy by people only marginally familiar with libertarianism concerns the subject of drug legalization. What should be remembered is that the libertarian advocates personal freedom, which they believe includes the right to make decisions concerning your own body. They would argue that today’s drug prohibition is very similar to the alcohol prohibition of the 1920’s, which helped spawn a great deal of criminal activity, profiteering for criminal gangs, and turned otherwise peaceful, law-abiding citizens into criminals. (Of course, if the use of drugs by an individual causes them to harm another, that person must take responsibility for their actions, and must make restitution or receive appropriate punishment.) They also believe that the “drug war” has largely been a failure in its goals, and has diverted law enforcement away from other, more serious crimes.


Libertarian philosophy can be applied to most any issue being debated in our time. By looking at the four areas of freedom of speech, international affairs, taxation, and drug policy, it is easy to see that libertarian thought at its most basic level agrees with Jefferson’s statement, “That government is best which governs least.”


Written by Deanna Corbeil


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To: A.J.Armitage
Four, too many people in the last 35 years have devised a delusional system whereby they look upon reality and pleas to take basic responsibility as an oppressive right-wing conspiracy. They have been supported in this belief by the media instead of having it challenged.

The Clintons have surfed this psychotic cultural and generational wave into the White House.

The attempt has been made to understand Bill and Hillary Clinton, particularly Bill, in terms of classical neurosis from abusive childhoods. But much of what is seen in the Clinton generation has made that model obsolete, although many from that generation, including psychiatrists and psychologists, desperately hold on to it to relieve themselves of any personal responsibility.

The truth is, Bill and Hillary Clinton have not suffered a bit of inconvenience for nearly 40 years¾including, for Bill, the inconvenience of military service. By his freshman year in high school Bill found he could manipulate people with showy glibness and deception, and nobody would call him on it. A good memory for acting lines would carry him through easy courses in the most prestigious schools in the country without effort or necessity to learn seriously. From there, he went almost immediately to being the boy governor of a state, and on to the presidency. It was all done with a little empty talk on a level that could be found on any high school debate team.

Hillary has led a similar life of ease and is now being pushed to take a senate seat and run for the presidency in 2004 on a platform of angrily confronting a vast right-wing conspiracy¾ which essentially consists of making accusatory and sarcastic remarks at you and me through a TV screen to the delight of angry women, spoiled angry leftists, and angry minorities. It isn't a bad life for an untalented spoiled brat who, without the world of TV and alienated politics, would be lucky to hold a job as a waitress in a truck stop.

The problem with the both Clintons is that they were long ago licensed to think and act at primitive, immature, and irrational levels of functioning. Much of this was a self-conferred licensing by a generation which has continued, and which has been the root of most of the political, economic, and social problems in this country.

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Robert L. Kocher is the author of "The American Mind in Denial." He is an engineer working in the area of solid-state physics, and has done graduate study in clinical psychology. His email address is steiner@access.mountain.net.

from The Laissez Faire City Times, Vol 3, No 7, Feb. 15, 1999

381 posted on 01/16/2002 2:09:54 PM PST by f.Christian
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To: f.Christian
Now, there's an example. That has nothing whatsoever to do with your inability to write a coherent sentence.
382 posted on 01/16/2002 2:21:14 PM PST by A.J.Armitage
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To: A.J.Armitage
your inability to write a coherent sentence.

382 posted on 1/16/02 3:21 PM Pacific by A.J.Armitage

Do you even know the difference between a libertarian=anarchist---a liberal socialist and Republican Conservative?

A coherent thought won't resonate with a foggy empty or rubbish filled head!

383 posted on 01/16/2002 11:05:31 PM PST by f.Christian
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To: f.Christian
Do you even know the difference between a libertarian=anarchist---a liberal socialist and Republican Conservative?

An example. I have no idea what you're trying to ask me. Are you asking if I know the difference between a libertarian and an anarchist, or between liberals socialists and Republican Conservatives? Or are you saying, by "libertarian=anarchist" that libertarianism and anarchy are the same thing? Or are you talking about Star Trek? Who knows?

A coherent thought won't resonate with a foggy empty or rubbish filled head!

Now, here you finally write a normal English sentence.

For the record, I have no idea if your thoughts are coherent or not. I can't tell what they are. No, my head is not foggy, empty, or filled with rubbish. The fault, frankly, is yours. You're the one who is so unable to discipline his writting style (or so high) that most of his sentences have, according to the rules of the English language, no meaning at all. They can't be parsed, because they don't follow any kind of coherent pattern.

384 posted on 01/17/2002 8:59:02 AM PST by A.J.Armitage
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To: A.J.Armitage
Libertarians/anarchists...Sorta TM hoppers...floaters!

364 posted on 1/14/02 1:41 PM Pacific by f.Christian

385 posted on 01/17/2002 9:03:37 AM PST by f.Christian
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To: f.Christian
Glue...sniffer--scatter brain--on drugs!!
386 posted on 01/17/2002 9:27:59 AM PST by A.J.Armitage
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To: lormand
So you complain and YET you still back them without question and then attack libertarians??

Seems to me that you like immoral libertine policies just so long as they are REPUBLICAN.

Did you ever think that maybe a party's name does NOT mean crap anymore?

Principles must not mean much either as you attack those who do care about principles.

Shame on you,
CATO

387 posted on 01/17/2002 11:23:15 AM PST by Cato
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To: Cato
"So you complain and YET you still back them without question and then attack libertarians??"

Do you see any glowing inconsistencies with this statement?

I complain, yet still back them without question?

388 posted on 01/17/2002 11:52:46 AM PST by lormand
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To: lormand
NO I do not.

You do attack libertarians and yet it is those GD REPOs that are fulfilling all the BAD things you say libertarians are guilty of.

Log Cabin REPOs get a place at the table of respectability because of GWB.

Complain about that!

CATO

389 posted on 01/21/2002 6:34:44 AM PST by Cato
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To: Cato
DAMN!

Some people need to understand the difference between ideology and party affiliation.

Obviously, you don't!

390 posted on 01/21/2002 8:50:03 AM PST by lormand
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To: lormand
Some people need to understand the difference between ideology and party affiliation.

Obviously, you don't!

LOL!!!!

pot. kettle. black

391 posted on 01/24/2002 7:18:29 AM PST by fod
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