[RnMomof7]

The Arminians say, Christ died for all men. Ask them what they mean by it. Did Christ die so as to secure the salvation of all men? They say, "No, certainly not." We ask them the next question—Did Christ die so as to secure the salvation of any man in particular? They answer "No." They are obliged to admit this, if they are consistent. They say, "No; Christ has died that any man may be saved if"—and then follow certain conditions of salvation. We say, then, we will go back to the old statement—Christ did not die so as beyond a doubt to secure the salvation of anybody, did He? You must say "No;" you are obliged to say so, for you believe that even after a man has been pardoned, he may yet fall from grace, and perish. Now, who is it that limits the death of Christ? Why, you. You say that Christ did not die so as to infallibly secure the salvation of anybody. We beg your pardon, when you say we limit Christ's death; we say, "No, my dear sir, it is you that do it." We say Christ so died that He infallibly secured the salvation of a multitude that no man can number, who through Christ's death not only may be saved but are saved, must be saved, and cannot by any possibility run the hazard of being anything but saved. You are welcome to your atonement; you may keep it. We will never renounce ours for the sake of it.

Someone should have posted this months ago...:>) It would have gone so much quicker >>>LOL

[sola gracia]

Someone should have posted this months ago...:>) It would have gone so much quicker >>>LOL

Sweet lady, isn't our Lord something Wonderful?!!!

It reminds me of the conversation Spurgeon had with his mother after his conversion.. She said, "Charles, I prayed that God would save you, but not that He would make you a Baptist." Spurgeon replied, "Now mother, isn't that just like our Lord to give you exceedingly more than you could ask or think?"

I just love that man.

[George W. Bush]

Someone should have posted this months ago...:>)

Well, I think the key points were all made. But we're not Spurgeons. He had a certain style and line of argument that is difficult to emulate.

Spurgeon: Seeing that many of you have now "tasted that the Lord is gracious," we will endeavour to go through the whole system of the doctrines of grace, that saints may be edified and built up in their most holy faith.

I do like the historical character of his opening where he discusses how he started and built his congregation up with the simple preaching of the Gospels but felt it was his responsibility to then proceed to a full preaching and explanation of all things in scripture, the doctrines of grace sometimes called Calvinism.

Uh-oh. I just noticed that saints word in Spurgeon's comments. We'd better hire a lot of sculptors.

[Mahone]

And here's another Reformed bump. I'm just waiting for Credenda Agenda to post their latest issue so I can post a terrific article on "the sinner's prayer"!