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Clear Evidence for Creation
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Posted on 01/10/2002 11:01:49 AM PST by VaBthang4

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EVIDENCE FOR CREATION…

1. The Fossil Record…Evolutionists have constructed the Geologic Column in order to illustrate the supposed progression of "primitive" life forms to "more complex" systems we observe today. Yet, "since only a small percentage of the earth's surface obeys even a … portion of the geologic column…the claim of their having taken place to form a continuum of rock/life/time…over the earth is therefore a fantastic and imaginative contrivance.1" "[T]he lack of transitional series cannot be explained as being due to the scarcity of material. The deficiencies are real, they will never be filled."2 This supposed column is actually saturated with "polystrate fossils" (fossils extending from one geologic layer to another) that tie all the layers to one time-frame. "[T]o the unprejudiced, the fossil record of plants is in favor of special creation." 3

2. Decay of Earth's Magnetic Field…Dr. Thomas Barnes, Emeritus Professor of Physics at the University of Texas at El Paso, has published the definitive work in this field.4 Scientific observations since 1829 have shown that the earth's magnetic field has been measurably decaying at an exponential rate, demonstrating its half-life to be approximately 1,400 years. In practical application its strength 20,000 years ago would approximate that of a magnetic star. Under those conditions many of the atoms necessary for life processes could not form. These data demonstrate that earth's entire history is young, within a few thousand of years.

3. The Global Flood… The Biblical record clearly describes a global Flood during Noah's day. Additionally, there are hundreds of Flood traditions handed down through cultures all over the world. 5 M.E. Clark and Henry Voss have demonstrated the scientific validity of such a Flood providing the sedimentary layering we see on every continent. 6 Secular scholars report very rapid sedimentation and periods of great carbonate deposition in earth's sedimentary layers..7 It is now possible to prove the historical reality of the Biblical Flood.8

4. Population Statistics…World population growth rate in recent times is about 2% per year. Practicable application of growth rate throughout human history would be about half that number. Wars, disease, famine, etc. have wiped out approximately one third of the population on average every 82 years. Starting with eight people, and applying these growth rates since the Flood of Noah's day (about 4500 years ago) would give a total human population at just under six billion people. However, application on an evolutionary time scale runs into major difficulties. Starting with one "couple" just 41,000 years ago would give us a total population of 2 x 1089. 9The universe does not have space to hold so many bodies.     

5. Radio Halos…Physicist Robert Gentry has reported isolated radio halos of polonuim-214 in crystalline granite. The half-life of this element is 0.000164 seconds! To record the existence of this element in such short time span, the granite must be in crystalline state instantaneously.10 This runs counter to evolutionary estimates of 300 million years for granite to form.

6. Human Artifacts throughout the Geologic Column…Man-made artifacts -  such as the hammer in Cretaceous rock, a human sandal print with trilobite in Cambrian rock, human footprints and a handprint in Cretaceous rock – point to the fact that all the supposed geologic periods actually occurred at the same time in the recent past.11

7. Helium Content in Earth's Atmosphere… Physicist Melvin Cook, Nobel Prize medalist found that helium-4 enters our atmosphere from solar wind and radioactive decay of uranium. At present rates our atmosphere would accumulate current helium-4 amounts in less than 10,000 years.12

8. Expansion of Space Fabric…Astronomical estimates of the distance to various galaxies gives conflicting data. 13The Biblical Record refers to the expansion of space by the Creator14. Astrophysicist Russell Humphries demonstrates that such space expansion would dilate time in distant space.15 This could explain a recent creation with great distances to the stars.

9. Design in Living Systems…A living cell is so awesomely complex that its interdependent components stagger the imagination and defy evolutionary explanations. A minimal cell contains over 60,000 proteins of 100 different configurations.16 The chance of this assemblage occurring by chance is 1 in 10 4,478,296 .17

10. Design in the Human Brain…The human brain is the most complicated structure in the known universe.18 It contains over 100 billion cells, each with over 50,000 neuron connections to other brain cells.19 This structure receives over 100 million separate signals from the total human body every second. If we learned something new every second of our lives, it would take three million years to exhaust the capacity of the human brain. 20 In addition to conscious thought, people can actually reason, anticipate consequences, and devise plans – all without knowing they are doing so.21

1Woodmorappe, John, "The Essential Non-Existence of the Evolutionary Uniformitarian Geologic Column: A Quantitative Assessment," Creation Research Society Quarterly, vol. 18, no.1 (Terre Haute, Indiana, June 1981),pp. 46-71

2 Nilsson, N. Heribert, as quoted in Arthur C. Custance, The Earth Before Man, Part II, Doorway Papers, no. 20 (Ontario, Canada: Doorway Publications), p. 51

3Corner, E.J.H., Contemporary Botanical Thought, ed. A.M. MacLeod and L.S. Cobley (Chicago: Quadrangle Books, 1961), p. 97

4Barnes, Thomas, ICR Technical Monograph #4, Origin and Destiny of the Earth's Magnetic Field (2nd edition, 1983)

5Blick, Edward, A Scientific Analysis of Genesis (Oklahoma City: Hearthstone, 1991) p. 103

6Clark, M.E. and Voss, H.D., "Fluid Mechanic Examination of the Tial Mechanism for Producing Mega-Sedimantary Layering" (Third International Conference on Creation, Pittsburg, July 1994)

7Ager, Derek, The Nature of the Stratigraphical Record (New York: John Wiley and Sons) p. 43 and p. 86

8West, John Anthony, Serpent in the Sky: The High Wisdom of Ancient Egypt (New York: Julian Press, 1987) pp. 13-14

9 See Morris, Henry, Scientific Creationism (El Cajon, CA: Master Books)

10Gentry, Robert, Creation's Tiny Mystery (Knoxville, Tenn.: Earth Science Assoc.,1988)

11 Baugh, Carl, Why Do Men Believe Evolution AGAINST ALL ODDS? (Oklahoma City: Hearthstone, 1999)

12Cook, Melvin, "Where is The Earth's Radiogenic Helium?" Nature, Vol. 179, p. 213

13Cowan, R., "Further Evidence of a Youthful Universe," Science News, Vol. 148, p. 166

14Psalm 104:2; Isaiah 40:22

15Humphries, Russell, Starlight and Time (Green Forest, AR: Master Books, 1994)

16Denton, Michael, Evolution: A Theory in Crisis (Bethesda, Maryland: Adler & Adler, 1986) p. 263

17 Mastropaolo, Joseph, "Evolution Is Biologically Impossible," Impact # 317 (El Cajon, CA: Institute For Creation Research,1999) p. 4

18Restak, Richard, The Brain: The Last Frontier, 1979, p. 390

19The Brain, Our Universe Within, PBS Video

20Wonders of God's Creation, Moody Video Series

21Weiss, Joseph, "Unconscious Mental Functioning," Scientific American, March 1990, p. 103

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To: memetic
if I did, I'd be duty bound to fight against him.

You are.

61 posted on 01/11/2002 10:30:09 AM PST by AndrewC
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To: VaBthang4
Starting with one "couple" just 41,000 years ago would give us a total population of 2 x 1089. The universe does not have space to hold so many bodies.

Especially not if they have to eat. Does anyone really think there would be that many people, just from having that much time? Why make this argument?

Figure a creationist to omit that population is limited by environmental resources. Beyond that point, somebody has to die. Your technology level figures heavily into this. If hunting and gathering are all you know, your maximum possible population density is going to be pretty thin. With settled agriculture, it can be higher, plus you can support cities now. With irrigated agriculture, you can grow even more. And so proceed.

BTW, as many have pointed out, your other posts are of a piece with this one. Not a real stumper in the bunch. Polystrate fossils? Polonium halos? At this point, the author's ignorance can only be deliberate. This article isn't at all posing real questions for science. This article is trolling for dupes.

62 posted on 01/11/2002 4:20:32 PM PST by VadeRetro
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To: Paradox
Plus, sometimes my bowel movements are blue, thus, there are indeed Smurfs in my Colon.

LOLOLOLOL!!

63 posted on 01/11/2002 4:24:19 PM PST by JediGirl
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To: JmyBryan
I agree with you. I do not totally believe in evolution, and not in small part because of the conclusions that Evolutionism draws, rather than the science involved. I just feel this theory has been tainted in part by the biases of its proponents.

I don't believe in Young Earth Creationism either. Its just too in the face of established facts.
65 posted on 01/13/2002 9:37:54 AM PST by Conservative til I die
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To: memetic
. Fortunately I don't believe he exists. if I did, I'd be duty bound to fight against him.

You don't believe in Him, fine. But then you go and offend His followers with malicious intent.

How enlightened of you.

The Germans in the 1940's felt they were pretty enlightened too. Since you feel duty bound to fight against Him and by proxy, His followers, I'm sure you'd be the kind of person to shove His followers, the majority of whom are not Young Earth Creationist fools, into gas chambers just for the visceral joy of hearing them scream.

Piss off, jerk.

66 posted on 01/13/2002 9:40:54 AM PST by Conservative til I die
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To: memetic
LOL, that's my favorite from the atheist crowd. "Now now knuckledragger, is that what your Jesus would say?"
68 posted on 01/13/2002 7:56:59 PM PST by Conservative til I die
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To: IceCreamSocialist
You were talking about probabilities, "winning PowerBall 100 times in a row," as you put it, not about creationism.

That aside, Jewish Kabbalah notes, "G-d created and destroyed many worlds before this one." Nachmanides, a renowned Torah scholar who lived during the middle ages, wrote that at the moment the Universe appeared, it was "no larger than a mustard seed," and ,

From the initial concentration of this intangible substance in its minute location, the substance expanded, expanding the universe as it did so. As the expansion progressed, a change in the substance occurred. This initially thin, non-corporeal substance took on the tangible aspects of matter as we know it.

From this initial act of creation, from the ethereally thin pseudosubstance, everything that has existed, or will ever exist, was, is and will be formed.

Rashi, an 11th century scholar, noted "God separated out some of the primeval light and hid it away for a future time when it would be used by the righteous. This light will extend through all space, and with it it will be possible to see from one side of the universe to the other." The deployment of RADAR in Britain during WW-II resulted in detection of the cosmic backround radiation.

"Think of the odds."

One might suggest that there is only a conflict between science and the Torah only if you don't fully understand one or the other. It's evident that the author of the article in #1 doesn't fully understand either.

69 posted on 01/14/2002 10:11:47 AM PST by mvpel
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To: dirtboy
I just wastched something about the 'Hovind Theory' that gives plausible explaination to everyone of your questions/observations.

The hogback and Dakota formations were instrumental in me quitting church as a kid because the pastors kept telling me to forget about the fossils and sediment that I could plainly see and to accept contraditory sotires that had no evidence.

The Hovind Theory accounts for sedimentation, folding and uplifting, the Grand Canyon, and many, many other aspects of this debate.

70 posted on 01/14/2002 10:19:28 AM PST by Eagle Eye
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To: VaBthang4
Very nice !!!! Creation and young earth bump.........
71 posted on 01/14/2002 10:21:01 AM PST by Southflanknorthpawsis
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To: dirtboy
Hovind Theory @ dr dino

This info was new to me, so if you or anyone else has something to say about it, I'm here to learn.

73 posted on 01/14/2002 10:24:24 AM PST by Eagle Eye
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To: Hottentot
It can't be hooey; look at all those footnotes.
74 posted on 01/14/2002 10:25:40 AM PST by abandon
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To: Eagle Eye
On the link you posted, I couldn't spot anything that looked like a concise presentation of the theory - could you be so kind as to find something and post it here, or provide a more specific link?
76 posted on 01/14/2002 10:35:55 AM PST by dirtboy
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To: nmh
What reasoning do you have for a world wide flood NOT having done this.

The rock sequence itself. If all sedimentary rocks were laid down by a global flood, there would be an expected sequence - clastics, sandstones, siltstones, shales - and maybe a smattering of limestone at the top - all over the world, at the same time. Instead, we have a broad range of intermixed rock sequences indicated countless transgressions and climatic changes. And then we have sedimentary rocks uplifted, folded, and then eroded, with subsequent additional sedimentary rocks, sometimes with a younger sequence deposited upon an eroded, angled sequence (such as the Great Unconformity in the Grand Canyon). And not all sedimentary-rock is based upon marine deposition - you have terrestial dune sandstones that are hundreds to thousands of feet thick out in the Colorado Plateau - you have fossil coral reefs that are hundreds of feet thick, and, since we can study the rate of coral growth and accumulation in the present, it isn't hard to determine that such thick limestone sequences are millions of years old.

77 posted on 01/14/2002 10:41:05 AM PST by dirtboy
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To: nmh
Here's a picture of the Great Unconformity:

So how do you propose that the flood could deposit a sequence of sedimentary rocks, tilt them, erode them UNDERWATER (a depositional, not an erosional environment), and then deposit more sedimentary rocks of a completely different type.

78 posted on 01/14/2002 10:49:03 AM PST by dirtboy
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To: dirtboy
Hovind Theroy

There is a video series by this guy. One of my kids brought home this video and we watched it this weekend. I thought he made a very good presentation of his case and it was very different than what I had previously believed and I'm one who always loved the Denver Museum of Natrual History, the Rooney Ranch fossil beds, etc, etc.

79 posted on 01/14/2002 11:05:25 AM PST by Eagle Eye
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