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White Firefighters Who Raised Flag at WTC depicted "racially diverse" in New Statue
Newsmax ^ | 1/8/02

Posted on 01/10/2002 9:43:54 AM PST by narby

Racial Changes Made in Ground Zero Firefighter Tribute

It happened more than two weeks ago, but at least one New York City firefighter is still steaming over the politically correct changes made to a sculpted tribute to the firefighter heroes who raised the American flag at Ground Zero just hours after the World Trade Center was leveled on 9/11.

The three flag-raising fireman, as depicted in a widely publicized photograph taken by New Jersey's Bergen Record, were white.

But when a statue commemorating the event was unveiled at the FDNY's Brooklyn headquarters on Dec. 21, the three white firefighters had been replaced by a more racially diverse trio of unidentified Fire Department staffers.

The $180,000 statue is the first memorial to the 343 firefighters and emergency medical personnel killed Sept. 11, reported Newsday at the time.

The racial modifications came at the behest of Fire Department officials, artists with Studio EIS, located on York Street in the Dumbo section, told the paper.

Our firefighter-reader complained:

"What Firefighters McWilliams, Johnson and Eisengrein did inspired the people of the United States in one of its darkest hours. ... This photograph is as sacred as the famous photograph and sculpture of the U.S. Marines raising the Flag on Iwo Jima. ...

"The 343 firefighters [who] were killed at the WTC (54 of whom I knew personally) consisted of all races and creeds.

"But the fact is that the three firefighters who hoisted the Flag on the afternoon of Sept. 11th at the WTC were white and should be depicted as such."

We couldn't have said it better ourselves.


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To: weegee
When Arizona Highways a couple of years back ran a photo of John Wayne with John Ford in Monument Valley, taken in 1956 when they were filming "The Searchers" there, they airbrushed out the cigarette in the Duke's hand, too.
121 posted on 01/10/2002 1:13:53 PM PST by agave
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To: MotleyGirl70
About 4 months ago I said somewhere onthis forum that I, a single white American male, is now the minority of society.

Nothing new to me.

122 posted on 01/10/2002 1:16:24 PM PST by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: Toidylop
First we have the NY Concert video replay of Hillary!...instead of being booed off the stage in disgrace as she was, it was rebroadcast by VH1 with canned cheers replacing the boos.

Next up, the "racially correct" mix of firefighters...see white just won't do..too racially oppressive. See, those firefighters were given all the advantages, that's why there weren't any blacks or chicanos or muslims or women raising the flag. We all know that they weren't given the same opportunities and so they were discrimminated against when the flag was being raised. See, the fire department is not integrated enough. Time for a victim's lawsuit.

123 posted on 01/10/2002 1:24:31 PM PST by Osinski
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To: narby
I wish my country didn't suck.
124 posted on 01/10/2002 1:31:29 PM PST by The Duke
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I have not seen a photo of the statue. Perhaps this is untrue (an urban legend)?
125 posted on 01/10/2002 1:32:49 PM PST by Museum Twenty
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To: JD86
Next up...


126 posted on 01/10/2002 1:37:57 PM PST by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: GodBlessPeggyNoonan
I wish this story were untrue. The radio hosts and producers here in Phoenix are trying to get hold of the powers that be in NYPD for comment. No one is talking. A caller who is a friend of two of the firemen in the famous photograph says he talked to one of the guys today and they are not allowed to talk about this. All the caller would say is that the story is being properly represented. It is not being overblown. Apparently there is pressure (i.e. money) from outside the department that wants this statue to be culturally diverse.

SICK, SICK, SICK

127 posted on 01/10/2002 1:38:01 PM PST by dittomom
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To: gridlock
a quick one ^
128 posted on 01/10/2002 1:38:49 PM PST by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: gridlock
MINITRU WORK ASSINGMENT 122901

RECTIFY PHOTO NYT 091601P1. DOUBLEPLUSUNGOOD SUBS NOT TRUE RE BBS SPEECH 092001 AND ADDL. RECTIFY WITH DOUBLEPLUSGOOD RACIAL MIX. END OF TRANSMISSION

WAR IS PEACE FREEDOM IS SLAVERY DIVERSITY IS STRENGTH

The scary thing is that I can translate this.

130 posted on 01/10/2002 1:50:19 PM PST by Centurion2000
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To: narby
This is racial bigotry.

These firemen are getting screwed because of their race.


You are absolutely 100% correct!
131 posted on 01/10/2002 1:52:56 PM PST by GussiedUp
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To: Mid-MI Student
Why do they need to change history?

Kinda makes you wonder about some of the things you were taught in history class, eh?

132 posted on 01/10/2002 1:59:10 PM PST by Come get it
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To: Diverdogz
I'm quite sure that one of statues will be gay.

Oh I am sure of that - after all Viacom is now coming out with Gay TV.....geesh.
133 posted on 01/10/2002 1:59:42 PM PST by GussiedUp
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To: Stand Watch Listen
They've been talking about this on WREC 600 Memphis, one of the facts that came out is that the statue of the Iwo Jima marines, features all branches of the military service. Never having a close up of it, I can say if that is a true fact. The wife of a Historian called in and stated it.
134 posted on 01/10/2002 2:06:42 PM PST by GailA
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To: narby
This is the top headline in today's OpinionJournal from WSJ: Best of the Web Today - January 10, 2002
135 posted on 01/10/2002 2:07:44 PM PST by spodefly
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To: Mid-MI Student
Who the Hell are "they"? It's time for tar and feathers.
136 posted on 01/10/2002 2:09:21 PM PST by gunshy
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To: D Joyce
I'm quite sure that one of statues will be gay. Of course! You will be able to identify it by the bow on the fly.

What? No limp wrist? And what about a red scarf sticking out of the back jean pocket? (It's significant on which pocket, but I can't tell you how.)

137 posted on 01/10/2002 2:09:38 PM PST by Revolting cat!
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To: Osinski; RedBloodedAmerican; all
First we have the NY Concert video replay of Hillary!...instead of being booed off the stage in disgrace as she was, it was rebroadcast by VH1 with canned cheers replacing the boos.

Can someone please tell me where I can find this video clip? I've tried before, but I can't find it.

138 posted on 01/10/2002 2:24:24 PM PST by Come get it
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To: narby
There was a photo album published a few years back titled "The Commissar Vanishes". In showed pairs of photographs from the Soviet Union during the Stalin era, the originals and the retouched versions where the party hacks and revolutionary heroes out of favor or out in Siberia, or out shot dead, were "disappeared" using whatever retouching technique was available then (it wasn't airbrushing, was it?) It was quite fascinating and funny too. Interestingly enough, many of these photographs had had two lives, that is too say the originals had been published and sometimes displayed in government offices just a few years before the new, improved versions replaced them.

I see now that there is a web site devoted to this very topic, somewhere here.

Can somebody explain the difference between the Commissar Vanishes and the topic we are discussing here today? Oh, I see, the liberals would explain to us that they are well intentioned in such "improvements".

139 posted on 01/10/2002 2:25:52 PM PST by Revolting cat!
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To: RedBloodedAmerican;Travis McGee
The old saying is "Lies, damn lies, and statistics!" Well add to that "Damn artistic license!" I won't even get a family portrait done for fear that the studio will airbrush in the 'right' mix of people. Trav, come on out and take a Polaroid of us, ok?
140 posted on 01/10/2002 2:32:02 PM PST by hollywood
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