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1 posted on 01/09/2002 7:25:21 AM PST by marshmallow
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To: marshmallow;snopercod
I worry about it all the time.
2 posted on 01/09/2002 7:28:23 AM PST by First_Salute
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To: crevo_list
"Anyway, science does not destroy the believer´s faith, but stimulates it."
3 posted on 01/09/2002 7:37:16 AM PST by PatrickHenry
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To: marshmallow

"For the time being, there is no scientific evidence of life," the priest added in the interview published Monday.

"For the time being", sound like he's expecting scientific evidence of life.

"However, we are gathering observations that point to this possibility. The universe is so large that it would be folly to say that we are the exception. The debate is ongoing and complex."

What's to debate. The first and second sentences are logical hypotheses/probabilities.

"If I were to meet an intelligent being from other worlds who revealed to me a spiritual life and told me that his people have also been saved by God through sending his only Son, he would ask me how it is possible that his only ´Son´ was present in different places. Thoughts of this kind are a great challenge," the priest said.

Yes, that would create a considerable challenge.

"Jesus Christ is true God and true man. Can this true man also appear in another planet? I don't know; I don't know whether I should deny or affirm this."

How about a thousand planets with intelligent life. I mean, the probability of intelligent live being on just two planets is astronomically high. Heck with a hundred million galaxies containing a hundred million stars each I'd say that there's probably millions of planets bearing intelligent life. We just haven't figured out how to get access to the UWW Universal Wide Web.

"Anyway, science does not destroy the believer's faith, but stimulates it."

Stimulates implications.

"It is true that the cosmology of the big bang is certain today as a scientific model," he said. "But it tells us very little about creation, or rather nothing, because creation as understood in the Bible does not answer the question about the origin of the universe, but why there is something instead of nothing."

Catching on that something cannot come from nothing.

"This is a theological response to a question of faith," Father Coyne said. "Science, however, is concerned with discovering the origin of the matter we know. In other words, sacred Scripture and theology do not refer to the way God created the universe. The two questions are not in conflict and, when this happens, very serious misunderstanding can arise."

In other words, when science proves intelligent alien life exists and we either ask them how and who created the Universe, or we ask the Universe Wide Web, and we learn that it was intelligent life that created the Universe and that creating Universes is not unusual for intelligent life to do it doesn't create a conflict between science and theology. It just means that theology hadn't considered those aspect. Nor did it consider the aspect that intelligent civilizations on many other planets have lived for tens-of-millions of years longer than intelligent man has lived on Earth. Those civilizations would be so much more technologically advanced than Earth's civilization that it's logical to conclude that they out-competed war and those who start wars. Why? Because we look at our own civilization and witness that the people that create wars have more than enough weapons of mass killing, nuclear/chemical/biological weapons to annihilate man ten times over. Of course, the intelligent aliens would also have developed definitive biologic immortality. And that creates for Father Coyne, yet another great challenge.

I short, they are us and we are they but our civilization is still in its infancy -- they're our cousins.

He created a scientific commission responsible for studying the elements necessary for the reform of the liturgical calendar that took place in 1582.

That was forty years after Nicolaus Copernicus released his geocentric (Earth centered) busting paper, "On the Revolutions of the Celestial Spheres (De revolutionibus orbium coelestium)" that gave mankind the heliocentric (Sun centered) model of our solar system.

A Cosmology of Infinite Riches

6 posted on 01/09/2002 9:04:41 AM PST by Zon
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To: marshmallow
his people have also been saved by God through sending his only Son, he would ask me how it is possible that his only ´Son´ was present in different places

If there is another civilization, it is entirely possible they didn't need saving, unlike our sinful selves. It is possible we have no contact with other civilizations because we alone out of all the teeming universe are considered "bad seed" and exist only by the Grace of God. Those other people are still living in their Gardens.

7 posted on 01/09/2002 9:12:34 AM PST by RightWhale
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To: marshmallow
I can just see the Fatwa right now...

Aliens: "Greetings Humans, we come in peace"

Taliban: BAM

9 posted on 01/09/2002 9:40:19 AM PST by DeckTheHallsHolly
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To: marshmallow
Don't you get it? There is NO intelligent life out there in the universe. The SETI project has been going on for decades and there is not the slightest sign of life out there. If there were intelligent life in the universe we would already have picked up some radio signals from them.

Face the fact, folks. Earth is the ONLY place in the universe where intelligent life exists.

15 posted on 01/09/2002 3:56:19 PM PST by PJ-Comix
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To: marshmallow
I'm sure that if the Vatican finds other intelligent life they will be delighted

to reassign all the pedophile priests there to sodomize their young!

39 posted on 01/09/2002 5:18:19 PM PST by gwynapnudd
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To: eddie willers;toddhisattva;monkeyshine;Henrietta;Exnihilo;JZoback;BillyBoy; Morgan's Raider...
On the Atlas Shrugged thread the other day I included a quote of yours as well as the below information. That has much to do with the article that started this thread and I thought you might be interested and have something to add to the discussion that started the thread.

But Rand will be immortalized by the one person that founded the business that picks up where Rand left off -- never taking a step backwards, then two forwards. The founder and business has very effectively discovered how to eliminate the negative "one step backwards" and inject that in waves sweeping the world. Incredible powerful stuff. A thinking paradigm shift that in the history of man, civilization has never witnessed such a profound mind-flip. In this Rand continuation of where Rand left off she could care less about all others that championed her work.


45 posted on 01/09/2002 6:42:36 PM PST by Zon
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