Posted on 01/09/2002 7:25:21 AM PST by marshmallow
"Based upon these historical accounts, it is clear that a special chain of the Greek mathematician-astronomer-cosmologist-philosophers consisting primarily of Philolaus, Heraclides, and Aristarchus had successively evolved a concept of the universe which was in fair agreement with that of Copernicus over 1750 years later." -- Philosophical Zero
I'm just a regular guy that has thoughts of intelligent life existing elsewhere in the universe. I'm not a scientist but in 1980 I was floored when I read in the science section of the local newspaper the description given by a group of like-minded scientists of a hypothesis for how multiple universe exist, and that hypothesis was so close to mine in detail that yes, it was very profound. I developed my hypothesis about six months prior to reading the article and had no outside help; no book research or professor input and no conversation with anybody but perhaps my mother.
That happened again but in a even weirder way. In 1982 I added another piece to the puzzle I was piecing together. Then over a weekend in 1986 I added several more pieces to the puzzle. I was astounded by the implications if the hypothesis was ever proved true. I wondered briefly if scientists had reached the same puzzle picture I had. Four years latter I become interested in becoming an entrepreneur and that lead me to becoming an avid reader.
It was on April 19th, 1990, the night before I was to leave for a very expensive marketing protégé/mentor boot camp put on by the legendary Jay Abraham that I was listening to an audio cassette of a presentation by John Flint -- a double PhD. in physics that had retired early as a highly successful senior research scientist at Dupont. In his presentation before the seminar attendees he fundamentally described the same hypothesis I had pieced together in 1986. To say the least I was astounded beyond anything I had imagined to that date. He gave a ton more detail than I had come up with.
Get this, that information was only new to me because it was in the latter part of 1985 that he released his original document, "The Long Wave, Surpassing Einstein" to a small select group of people. It was at his company's 1986 World Summit that he presented the information from which the audio cassette was made.
My conclusion is that a person need not be a scientist to have simultaneous discoveries that are fundamentally the same as a scientist. The similarity of my hypothesis and that of John Flint's was as close as my multiple universe hypothesis to the scientists' hypothesis of the same. The main difference being that John Flint gave a hundred times more detail in his 1985 hypothesis than I was able to glean from the 1980 article on the multiple universe hypothesis.
But Rand will be immortalized by the one person that founded the business that picks up where Rand left off -- never taking a step backwards, then two forwards. The founder and business has very effectively discovered how to eliminate the negative "one step backwards" and inject that in waves sweeping the world. Incredible powerful stuff. A thinking paradigm shift that in the history of man, civilization has never witnessed such a profound mind-flip. In this Rand continuation of where Rand left off she could care less about all others that championed her work.
In other words, while much is unknown, nothing is unknowable to the conscious mind. By nature, the conscious mind requires no change or evolvement to understand anything in existence. On acquiring the correct knowledge, conscious beings today are capable of doing anything within the immutable laws of physics throughout the universe.
I favor the hypothesis that there is intelligent life on other planets rather than the hypothesis that there isn't intelligent life.
As for your view that any alien civilizations would have "evolved" beyond our wars and hatreds--say that Alien Species X is just like that, wise and benevolent Astro-Buddhists. Say that Alien Species Y is grasping and violent, paranoid and militaristic. Assuming comparable technology, who do you think would kick the other side's butt?
First, I think Intelligent species Y would be like earth's civilization having just gained access to the universal civilization. In that case intelligent species X would would control intelligent species Y and not kick their butts.
Figure it out, if when we pinpoint Intelligent alien life we wouldn't dare go picking fights with them. Our own mysticism plagued minds know on a personal level that civilization and its constituent individuals are benefited by conducting business as opposed to wars and killing people that negates the benefits of business.
Btw, I don't view my religious beliefs as relevant to this discussion. Religion is orthogonal to these issues.
Apparently the Vatican thinks differently.
orthogonal: Having a set of mutually perpendicular axes; meeting at right angles
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